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Misc is law tbh

Yeah vinnie looks like a masculine jock chad bully whod beat the shit out of someone. Jordan looks like a f****t alien
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I can somewhat agree that Jordan looks like an alien, but his dimo is indisputably higher than vinnie's.
 
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I can somewhat agree that Jordan looks like an alien, but his dimo is indisputably higher than vinnie's.
That literally looks masc to me idk what to say. He looks masculine. His pose is kinda feminine there but that's it. Also no it isn't. If you're one of those ratio guys you should know damn well that Vinnie has more dimorphism. His ratios are way more masculine, longer midface while jordan is squished, jordan has a tiny feminine nose, etc. Vinnie has more masculine ratios and looks masculine visually. I never understood why people called vinnie a twink
 
That literally looks masc to me idk what to say. He looks masculine. His pose is kinda feminine there but that's it. Also no it isn't. If you're one of those ratio guys you should know damn well that Vinnie has more dimorphism. His ratios are way more masculine, longer midface while jordan is squished, jordan has a tiny feminine nose, etc. Vinnie has more masculine ratios and looks masculine visually. I never understood why people called vinnie a twink
ok i'm not saying vinnie's not masculine, I think my messages might have implied that. in fact I think it's quite the contrary. I say vinnie has pretty high dimo. but Jordan doesn't even look fuhcking human. I mean he has like 7 fWHR, 30 degree canthal tilt, wide asf jaw, hollow cheekbones, eyebrows lower set than his eyes, etc etc.
 
Nose and lips are also mega important
Tbh those are determined by maxilla this is water but you can get a cosmetic bimax and it fixes it “just get 20k surgery bro!” still tho

for men I think these are way more brutal because foids can contour without being called gay and they can get filler without it being gay, aswell as it looking more natural because women have a somewhat different lip shape which filler emulates more effectively
 
ok i'm not saying vinnie's not masculine, I think my messages might have implied that. in fact I think it's quite the contrary. I say vinnie has pretty high dimo. but Jordan doesn't even look fuhcking human. I mean he has like 7 fWHR, 30 degree canthal tilt, wide asf jaw, hollow cheekbones, eyebrows lower set than his eyes, etc etc.
Overly positive canthal tilt is feminine. Women have much higher canthal tilts than men on average.
 
Tbh those are determined by maxilla this is water but you can get a cosmetic bimax and it fixes it “just get 20k surgery bro!” still tho

for men I think these are way more brutal because foids can contour without being called gay and they can get filler without it being gay, aswell as it looking more natural because women have a somewhat different lip shape which filler emulates more effectively
How are nose and lips determined by maxilla? lmao
 
Overly positive canthal tilt is feminine. Women have much higher canthal tilts than men on average.
fair but I think for Jordan it balances out. fWHR and jaw make him unmistakably hypermasculine imo. he's one of the most male gaze models there is imo but Vinnie appeals way more to the female gaze
 

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