Info mTOR and Testosterone

[trvecel]

im ngl but i think mj was overrated ash

ye but n***a think about it he has legit crazy status too

 

[Hypertrophy]

ye but n***a think about it he has legit crazy status too

n***a did allat without any Internet. He had people fainting at his shows, shits crazy

 

[tmpll]

ye but n***a think about it he has legit crazy status too

i mean yea, im not saying his music was bad either but they just did wayyyy too much

Bruno Mars is better

 

[Hypertrophy]

i mean yea, im not saying his music was bad either but they just did wayyyy too much

Bruno Mars is better

I'm eating ground turkey rn

 

[trvecel]

n***a did allat without any Internet. He had people fainting at his shows, shits crazy

legit might have most smv for someone who isnt a world leader

 

[tmpll]

I'm eating ground turkey rn

bro drink something natural like soy milk

 

[genio]

You gave everyone gold... I hope you are treated like a king here

And then @Dandelions walks in
How broke are you? I js argued with a n***a about how test is unideal for height although i know its not a bad option if you keep e2 under control
Due to aromatizing which is water
Js in the context the n***a was making e2 nuking + tren sound bad too

 

[Hypertrophy]

legit might have most smv for someone who isnt a world leader

Exactly bro n***a was probably drowining in women

i mean yea, im not saying his music was bad either but they just did wayyyy too much

Bruno Mars is better

FoidSlayer for gg mod?

 

[tmpll]

FoidSlayer for gg mod?

hell no

 

[genio]

Exactly bro n***a was probably drowining in women

FoidSlayer for gg mod?

Is this a different foidslayer
The foidslayer here thinks pinning supraphysiological levels of test is ideal during puberty

 

[Hypertrophy]

Is this a different foidslayer
The foidslayer here thinks pinning supraphysiological levels of test is ideal during puberty

On gg I go by FoidSlayer. n*****s shouldn't be pinning test so young if they care about height, max you should go is like 70mg

 

[genio]

On gg I go by FoidSlayer. n*****s shouldn't be pinning test so young if they care about height, max you should go is like 70mg

I told him <100mg test the n***a still thinks elevated levels are ideal
Idk why he doesnt get it
Its as simple as aromatase = e2 which will close your plates
I wouldnt say its a net negative if done correctly though just not ideal and most people he’ll recommend it to will do like 500mg first cycle because they’re uneducated

 

[Hypertrophy]

I told him <100mg test the n***a still thinks elevated levels are ideal
Idk why he doesnt get it
Its as simple as aromatase = e2 which will close your plates
I wouldnt say its a net negative if done correctly though just not ideal and most people he’ll recommend it to will do like 500mg first cycle because they’re uneducated

Does he even know about local aromatization? Or that lots of androgens can accelerate plate closure because of the ARs located there?

 

[genio]

Does he even know about local aromatization? Or that lots of androgens can accelerate plate closure because of the ARs located there?

Oh shit n***a i lowk forgot about local aromatization while arguing with the n***a
If i had brought that up the argument wouldve been over
I forgot bloodwork on e2 may show up fine off an ai but your plates will be fucked anyways

 

[Hypertrophy]

Oh shit n***a i lowk forgot about local aromatization while arguing with the n***a
If i had brought that up the argument wouldve been over
I forgot bloodwork on e2 may show up fine off an ai but your plates will be fucked anyways

I bet the argument was good cagefuel

 

[genio]

I bet the argument was good cagefuel

It was js test aromatizes which is unideal
I forgot because we arguing about like 3 other things at the same time like e2, tren, etc.

 

[genio]

Btw could you review my stack?

 

[Hypertrophy]

Btw could you review my stack?

I'm not very smart tbh

 

[genio]

@foidslayer forgot to mention that even though taking testosterone with an ai may keep serum estradiol under control, aromatized e2 is still expressed directly on osteoblasts locally to bone tissue, which produces estrogenic effects whether or not your systematic e2 levels look normal
Tldr: test closes your plates locally anyways even if systematic e2 is in range

@submissivechud this is relevant to your shit i lowk forgot about it

 

[genio]

I'm not very smart tbh

Js look

Spoiler: Stack

GH Pathway:

GHRP2 600mcg - 2x-3x ED

CJC ND 300mcg - 2x-3x ED



PTH Pathway:

Abaloparatide 100mcg - ED



FGFR3 Inhibition Pathway:

Erdafitinib 4mg - ED

Notes: cycle 2 months on, 1 month off



ROIDS:

Test E 10mg - ED

Tren A 20mg - ED

Notes: cycle 16 weeks on, 8 weeks off

Winstrol 10mg - ED

Notes: cycle 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off



E2:

Exemestane 25mg - ED



Neuroprotection:

Memantine 5mg - EOD

Cerebrolysin 5ml - 10 days

Dihexa 10mg - ED

Pregnenolone 50mg - ED



Cardiovascular protection:

Telmisartan 160mg - ED

Notes: BP-lowering effects heavily diminish after 80mg, use 160mg for PPARy activation

Nebivilol 5mg - ED

Tadalafil 10mg - ED

Eplerenone 25g - ED

Notes: only when off Tren



Fats:

Pitavastatin 1mg - ED

Ezetimibe 10mg - ED

Fish Oils 3.6g - ED



Antioxidants:

TUDCA 1200mg - ED

Astaxanthin 12mg - ED

NAC 3g - ED



Hormone control:

(Keep some Cabergoline and T4 on hand)

T3 25mcg - ED

P5P 100mg - ED



Sleep:

Magnesium Glycinate 360mg - ED

Melatonin 52.5mg - ED



Joint Support:

(Add electrolytes or glycine if needed)

Water 128oz - ED



Skin, Hair, etc:

Isotretinoin 20mg - EOD

Tazarotene 0.05% - ED

Topical Cyclosporine 0.05% - ED

RU58841 5% + Minoxidil 10% Solution - ED



Other:

D3 + K2 5000iu and 90mg - ED

C + Zinc 1g and 45mg - ED

Sevelamer 400mg - ED

Eye Drops - every 2 hours

Retatrutide 4mg - weekly

Notes: stable for 45 days reconstituted

HCG 250IU - E3D

Notes: stable for 60 days reconstituted

 

[Hypertrophy]

Js look

Spoiler: Stack

GH Pathway:

GHRP2 600mcg - 2x-3x ED

CJC ND 300mcg - 2x-3x ED



PTH Pathway:

Abaloparatide 100mcg - ED



FGFR3 Inhibition Pathway:

Erdafitinib 4mg - ED

Notes: cycle 2 months on, 1 month off



ROIDS:

Test E 10mg - ED

Tren A 20mg - ED

Notes: cycle 16 weeks on, 8 weeks off

Winstrol 10mg - ED

Notes: cycle 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off



E2:

Exemestane 25mg - ED



Neuroprotection:

Memantine 5mg - EOD

Cerebrolysin 5ml - 10 days

Dihexa 10mg - ED

Pregnenolone 50mg - ED



Cardiovascular protection:

Telmisartan 160mg - ED

Notes: BP-lowering effects heavily diminish after 80mg, use 160mg for PPARy activation

Nebivilol 5mg - ED

Tadalafil 10mg - ED

Eplerenone 25g - ED

Notes: only when off Tren



Fats:

Pitavastatin 1mg - ED

Ezetimibe 10mg - ED

Fish Oils 3.6g - ED



Antioxidants:

TUDCA 1200mg - ED

Astaxanthin 12mg - ED

NAC 3g - ED



Hormone control:

(Keep some Cabergoline and T4 on hand)

T3 25mcg - ED

P5P 100mg - ED



Sleep:

Magnesium Glycinate 360mg - ED

Melatonin 52.5mg - ED



Joint Support:

(Add electrolytes or glycine if needed)

Water 128oz - ED



Skin, Hair, etc:

Isotretinoin 20mg - EOD

Tazarotene 0.05% - ED

Topical Cyclosporine 0.05% - ED

RU58841 5% + Minoxidil 10% Solution - ED



Other:

D3 + K2 5000iu and 90mg - ED

C + Zinc 1g and 45mg - ED

Sevelamer 400mg - ED

Eye Drops - every 2 hours

Retatrutide 4mg - weekly

Notes: stable for 45 days reconstituted

HCG 250IU - E3D

Notes: stable for 60 days reconstituted

Imma keep it a buck idk half these compounds lol.

 

[genio]

Imma keep it a buck idk half these compounds lol.

Son ur supposed to be smart

 

[Hypertrophy]

Son ur supposed to be smart

WHO DECIDED THAT? I will be once I read more, I'm in a rough patch rn and haven't been motivated but soon my friend

 

[genio]

WHO DECIDED THAT? I will be once I read more, I'm in a rough patch rn and haven't been motivated but soon my friend

Its ok im lazy as shit too i havent read nothing

 

[Hypertrophy]

Its ok im lazy as shit too i havent read nothing

Opinion on DHT regarding height?

 

[genio]

Opinion on DHT regarding height?

I forgot specifics but good
Well even surface level it makes a strong androgenic signal in bone tissue and doesnt aromatize so its gonna be good anyways

 

[Hypertrophy]

I forgot specifics but good
Well even surface level it makes a strong androgenic signal in bone tissue and doesnt aromatize so its gonna be good anyways

I saw somewhere about 5ARD people having normal height growth, I haven't read the study yet though but I will tmrw. I need to see both sides of the argument because is 5AR even present in growth plates? Because DHT doesn't affect bone or skeletal muscle so it's a confusing topic. Maybe Im being dumb tho

 

[genio]

I forgot specifics but good
Well even surface level it makes a strong androgenic signal in bone tissue and doesnt aromatize so its gonna be good anyways

It’s also anti-cortisol making it anti-catabolic which is always good
And agonises erb

 

[genio]

I saw somewhere about 5ARD people having normal height growth, I haven't read the study yet though but I will tmrw. I need to see both sides of the argument because is 5AR even present in growth plates? Because DHT doesn't affect bone or skeletal muscle so it's a confusing topic. Maybe Im being dumb tho

Yeye they had micropenises though
5ar type 1 is found in bone and expressed in osteoblasts which may amplify androgenic effects

 

[Hypertrophy]

Yeye they had micropenises though

True that, although I think that's like the only negative. They seem to do fine, jaw development normal and bone shit normal. Height apparently is normal along with weight so idk, I need to read more

5ar type 1 is found in bone and expressed in osteoblasts which may amplify androgenic effects

I heard it's negligible and test and estrogen play a much bigger role in bones

 

[genio]

True that, although I think that's like the only negative. They seem to do fine, jaw development normal and bone shit normal. Height apparently is normal along with weight so idk, I need to read more

I heard it's negligible and test and estrogen play a much bigger role in bones

Not negligible, well at least type 1 isnt
Type 1 is clearly expressed in bone
Type 2 may be negligible
Its useful because it’s anti-cortisol which makes it anti-catabolic, erB agonism, also activates af2 because it metabolizes into several compounds, directly antagonizes erA, it directly suppresses local estrogen alongside orher tjings