Guide Only Micronutrients you need 2025

[Mandy?]

These supplements should be the only ones you should be taking,more then that is pointless because if you can’t get it in your diet then fix it.

Hormonal synthesis and health:

-Vitamin D3
-Magnesium (Citrate ideally)
-Zinc
-L-Arginine
-Vitamin E
-Selenium and Iodine (Iodine sometimes not needed if you use the salt)

Other health aspects (Cardiovascular,ATP,Anti Oxidant,Skin,Structural)

-Calcium
-Collagen (or gelatin)
-Melatonin (high dose 30-150mg)
-Taurin
-Q10
-Vitamin C

To be honest that’s all you need,sounds a lot but lots of these are conbined together like D3 and calcium jus5 f9r example. Every other thing is stupid to get and useless like herbs from china. Also get lots of these in your own diet diet mostly except some that you can’t exactly get.

 

[Deleted Member 70398]

supplements are cope and fake, you don't need any of them

 

[Mandy?]

supplements are cope and fake, you don't need any of them

Get most of your micronutrients from your diet as I said,also depends in quality and bioavailability of the supplement form.

 

[Tumor]

I don't take any of this

 

[boxeur]

These supplements should be the only ones you should be taking,more then that is pointless because if you can’t get it in your diet then fix it.

Hormonal synthesis and health:

-Vitamin D3
-Magnesium (Citrate ideally)
-Zinc
-L-Arginine
-Vitamin E
-Selenium and Iodine (Iodine sometimes not needed if you use the salt)

Other health aspects (Cardiovascular,ATP,Anti Oxidant,Skin,Structural)

-Calcium
-Collagen (or gelatin)
-Melatonin (high dose 30-150mg)
-Taurin
-Q10
-Vitamin C

To be honest that’s all you need,sounds a lot but lots of these are conbined together like D3 and calcium jus5 f9r example. Every other thing is stupid to get and useless like herbs from china. Also get lots of these in your own diet diet mostly except some that you can’t exactly get.

h2o

 

[Nihilus]

You'll get all the nutrients you need if you eat some liver every 2 days
Also humans don't need that much magnesium or vitamin C ( this is the case if you don't eat much carbs )

 

[JeezyTheSnowman]

Biotin is KEY for hair-related concerns, whether that is growth or preventing thinning (won't prevent pattern baldness but has a role in other types)

 

[JeezyTheSnowman]

You'll get all the nutrients you need if you eat some liver every 2 days
Also humans don't need that much magnesium or vitamin C ( this is the case if you don't eat much carbs )

Or just pop a multi

 

[pepelkant]

-Vitamin D3
-Calcium

No k2 ?

 

[Nihilus]

Or just pop a multi

Fake nutrients
Most of the supplements are not the actual molecules but rather similar ones that they hope gets metabolized into the actual vitamin inside your body
Vitamin A as retinol esters
Folate ( B9 ) as folic acid
B3 as nicotinamide
Ect ect

 

[bonesarelaw]

These supplements should be the only ones you should be taking,more then that is pointless because if you can’t get it in your diet then fix it.

Hormonal synthesis and health:

-Vitamin D3
-Magnesium (Citrate ideally)
-Zinc
-L-Arginine
-Vitamin E
-Selenium and Iodine (Iodine sometimes not needed if you use the salt)

Other health aspects (Cardiovascular,ATP,Anti Oxidant,Skin,Structural)

-Calcium
-Collagen (or gelatin)
-Melatonin (high dose 30-150mg)
-Taurin
-Q10
-Vitamin C

To be honest that’s all you need,sounds a lot but lots of these are conbined together like D3 and calcium jus5 f9r example. Every other thing is stupid to get and useless like herbs from china. Also get lots of these in your own diet diet mostly except some that you can’t exactly get.

vitamin A too

 

[Mandy?]

You'll get all the nutrients you need if you eat some liver every 2 days
Also humans don't need that much magnesium or vitamin C ( this is the case if you don't eat much carbs )

JFL this is so stupid. Magnesium is a essential mineral and is responsible for many hormonal processes including being a co factor in converting vitamin D3 it’s in active form,vitamin C is not only important for carbohydrates but it’s a good anti oxidant that can actually be utilized in the human body. And “muh just eat liver” dosen’t always work,you ignore the fact that one of the reason multivitamin pills aren’t efficient is because many micronutrients compete in absorbtion,calcium and iron,Vitamin D3 and Vitamin A and much more and it’s the same with liver. Even if raw in its most perserve form,liver is not the smartest thing.

 

[Mandy?]

vitamin A too

If you eat more than 3 eggs a day then you’d have enough vitamin A.

 

[Mandy?]

No k2 ?
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K2 is water and it’s included in lots of D3 or calcium supplements.

 

[Mandy?]

Biotin is KEY for hair-related concerns, whether that is growth or preventing thinning (won't prevent pattern baldness but has a role in other types)

The problem is I included supplements that are just the must,the must in what you need to be supplementing if you are. You shouldn’t also completely replace the micronutrients you get from dietary sources because not all supplements have a high bioavalible yield.

 

[Mandy?]

Or just pop a multi

dosen’t always work,you ignore the fact that one of the reason multivitamin pills aren’t efficient is because many micronutrients compete in absorbtion,calcium and iron,Vitamin D3 and Vitamin A and much more and it’s the same with liver.

 

[Nihilus]

Magnesium is a essential mineral and is responsible for many hormonal processes including being a co factor in converting vitamin D3

I didn't say it's not important, we just need way less than the "recommended daily intake"

form,vitamin C is not only important for carbohydrates but it’s a good anti oxidant that can actually be utilized in the human body

Again I didn't say it's not important, we don't need that much , especially if you don't eat carbs
Vitamin C compete with glucose in transportation and also the "antioxidant" role is only that relevant if you eat a carb based diet leading to oxidation and advanced glycation end products
The main antioxidant used by humans is Glutathione , totally made by the body given that you have a healthy amino acid profile and enough b vitamins

And “muh just eat liver” dosen’t always work,you ignore the fact that one of the reason multivitamin pills aren’t efficient is because many micronutrients compete in absorbtion,calcium and iron,Vitamin D3 and Vitamin A and much more and it’s the same with liver. Even if raw in its most perserve form,liver is not the smartest thing.

They do compete in absorption but the absurdly high amount mitigates this
you'd be getting enough of everything

 

[Nihilus]

Biotin is KEY for hair-related concerns, whether that is growth or preventing thinning (won't prevent pattern baldness but has a role in other types)

Just eat some raw eggs buddy , you'll get all the B vitamins you need

 

[Nihilus]

I get the point of this thread but there's no way you'll consider your diet good if you don't already get every micronutrient in good amount
I don't see how it's cheaper either

 

[Mandy?]

I didn't say it's not important, we just need way less than the "recommended daily intake"

A magnesium intake of above 800mg would probably benefit a human way more than less than 300mg.

Again I didn't say it's not important, we don't need that much , especially if you don't eat carbs
Vitamin C compete with glucose in transportation and also the "antioxidant" role is only that relevant if you eat a carb based diet leading to oxidation and advanced glycation end products

Almost no one on this forum is in ketosis or isn’t consuming a carb based diet so vitamin C could be very useful.

The main antioxidant used by humans is Glutathione , totally made by the body given that you have a healthy amino acid profile and enough b vitamins

The body also has less oxidative stress if you also just for once utilize other anti oxidants such as Vitamin E,Q10 and selenium.

They do compete in absorption but the absurdly high amount mitigates this
you'd be getting enough of everything

Here’s another disadvantaged thing here,your body absorbs the nutrients off foods with lower amounts better than lots of nutrients at once,becomes also worse if you keep consuming liver every other day,your body can only store a limited amount of nutrients.

 

[Nihilus]

Almost no one on this forum is in ketosis or isn’t consuming a carb based diet so vitamin C could be very useful

Yeah I am just stating how it should be
how it would be naturally and ideally
More like an abstractions , I just stated the fact that humans naturally don't need much vitamin C

The body also has less oxidative stress if you also just for once utilize other anti oxidants such as Vitamin E,Q10 and selenium.

Vitamin E is quite overrated
Q10 from a bloody heart , yummy
Selenium from meat also ( white meat usually )
Yeah they're good but not the main one , I literally didn't say don't consume them . They could help but your body will be already okay using mainly glutathione ( given that you're not nuking your body with oxidative stress )

Here’s another disadvantaged thing here,your body absorbs the nutrients off foods with lower amounts better than lots of nutrients at once,becomes also worse if you keep consuming liver every other day,your body can only store a limited amount of nutrients

Fat soluble vitamins get stored quite well actually, water soluble vitamins get eliminated in urine
Also I didn't say eat liver everyday , eat small portions every 2-3 days or a big one every week


I don't see the point of us arguing really it seems that we're not on the same page in terms of context , I am just stating how naturally and normally it should be

 

[Norwood Reaper]

Just eat some raw eggs buddy , you'll get all the B vitamins you need

no way u said raw eggs jfl

 

[Norwood Reaper]

magnesium glycinate is better then citrate

 

[Nihilus]

no way u said raw eggs jfl

Raw eggs = all relevant vitamins except vitamin C
You can only eat the yolk also to mitigate that shitty antinutrient in the whites

 

[Norwood Reaper]

Raw eggs = all relevant vitamins except vitamin C
You can only eat the yolk also to mitigate that shitty antinutrient in the whites

raw yolks are fine i thought u said to eat the whole egg raw

 

[Mandy?]

Yeah I am just stating how it should be
how it would be naturally and ideally
More like an abstractions , I just stated the fact that humans naturally don't need much vitamin C


Vitamin E is quite overrated
Q10 from a bloody heart , yummy
Selenium from meat also ( white meat usually )
Yeah they're good but not the main one , I literally didn't say don't consume them . They could help but your body will be already okay using mainly glutathione ( given that you're not nuking your body with oxidative stress )

Fat soluble vitamins get stored quite well actually, water soluble vitamins get eliminated in urine
Also I didn't say eat liver everyday , eat small portions every 2-3 days or a big one every week


I don't see the point of we arguing really it seems that we're not on the same page in terms of context , I am just stating how naturally and normally it should be

Natural isn’t always ideal,if you naturally had a short dick would it be ideal to the chick? Vitamin E is good against estrogenic effects and protects cholesterol from oxidative stress,and who the fuck just eats a bloody heart,sorry Nihilus I love you but not everyone eats a raw heart. I love chicken and fish, No your liver can only store a specific amount of vitamin A for example,a group of fishermen in some tropical country ate the liver of a fish with high doses of vitamin A,around 80.000IU’s if I right and they died. And your own liver stores vitamin A very rationally so it stores a lot so liver once a week sometimes twice.

 

[Mandy?]

magnesium glycinate is better then citrate

That one makes you shit more.

 

[Norwood Reaper]

That one makes you shit more.

AI Overview

Magnesium glycinate and magnesium citrate are two common forms of magnesium supplements, each with distinct characteristics and uses. Magnesium glycinate is known for its high bioavailability and gentle effect on the digestive system, making it a good choice for those seeking to improve sleep, reduce anxiety, and support muscle function without gastrointestinal upset. Magnesium citrate, on the other hand, is often recommended for its laxative effect, which can help relieve constipation and support digestive health. deadass u can search it up and the answer is there

 

[Mandy?]

AI Overview

Magnesium glycinate and magnesium citrate are two common forms of magnesium supplements, each with distinct characteristics and uses. Magnesium glycinate is known for its high bioavailability and gentle effect on the digestive system, making it a good choice for those seeking to improve sleep, reduce anxiety, and support muscle function without gastrointestinal upset. Magnesium citrate, on the other hand, is often recommended for its laxative effect, which can help relieve constipation and support digestive health. deadass u can search it up and the answer is there

Hey but I’m chatGPT 4.1 I’m more sure.

 

[Nihilus]

Natural isn’t always ideal,if you naturally had a short dick would it be ideal to the chick? Vitamin E is good against estrogenic effects and protects cholesterol from oxidative stress,and who the fuck just eats a bloody heart,sorry Nihilus I love you but not everyone eats a raw heart. I love chicken and fish, No your liver can only store a specific amount of vitamin A for example,a group of fishermen in some tropical country ate the liver of a fish with high doses of vitamin A,around 80.000IU’s if I right and they died. And your own liver stores vitamin A very rationally so it stores a lot so liver once a week sometimes twice.

Trust me try it , fresh heart is the best thing I ever ate
Very euphoric and intoxicating