RAD 140 Cycle Thoughts?

[Rkelly]

I'm planning on taking 10-15mg of RAD140 for 8-10 weeks. Then 4 week PCT of Nolvadex/Tamoxifen 20/20/10/10 (20mg per day for weeks 1 & 2 then 10mg for weeks 3 & 4).

Anyone here have experience on taking any of the above compounds?

Anything else I should add? Maybe MK677 or some NAC and TUDCA.

@Rei @JackHanma
@Rei @Buddy Boyo @Nexx @JackHanma anyone else

 

[Rkelly]

Also anyway to counteract or mitigate the potential hair shedding?
I've heard some people say minox and fin or even RU58841 won't do much against RAD140 hair side effects.

 

[JackHanma]

I'm planning on taking 10-15mg of RAD140 for 8-10 weeks. Then 4 week PCT of Nolvadex/Tamoxifen 20/20/10/10 (20mg per day for weeks 1 & 2 then 10mg for weeks 3 & 4).

Anyone here have experience on taking any of the above compounds?

Anything else I should add? Maybe MK677 or some NAC and TUDCA.

@Rei @JackHanma
@Rei @Buddy Boyo @Nexx @JackHanma anyone else

I would recommend LGD over RAD, personally

Nolvadex gave me chest pains when I took it during a dbol cycle

You wont want to go over 8 weeks on RAD you'll feel like pure shit

I recommend taking a DHEA supplement for some estrogen, add mk677 if you're bulking, NAC and TUDCA unnecessary imo

topical S4 for hair sides, though 8 weeks isn't gonna do any permanent damage, you're right that fin wont help much, RU might though.

8 weeks on minox is just gonna exacerbate the shedding honestly

 

[King]

Then 4 week PCT of Nolvadex/Tamoxifen

Just f*****g lol,,
where is the main pillar of PCT- HCG and rFSH
also 4 weeks of PCT is laughable
if u want to fully recover you'll have to run at least 1 year of PCT
,,but if wanna cruise for life on trt then....

also jfl at tamoxifen ,it is utter shit
take Clomid instead

RAD140

just warning most of the SARMs on the market is fake

 

[Rkelly]

just warning most of the SARMs on the market is fake

Even sites like science.bio or chemyo?

Interesting I always heard people who go on 8 week sarm cycles take a 4 week PCT and are usually fine. I guess it varies from person to person. I should get blood work done before and after tbh.

 

[King]

4 week PCT and are usually fine

They cruise later ,4 weeks are for make the hpta axis somewhat active, there is something in biology like lose it or use it
But for complete recovery + fertilly u need a year

NAC and TUDCA.

also this is legit for liver ,also add melatonin 3mg it is stronger antioxidant than glucosamine,,,,I'm on 3mg for 1 year now ..it's legit

 

[King]

Even sites like science.bio or chemyo?

Most of the products sold online as SARMs contain either these unapproved substances alone -- sometimes in amounts different from what is specified on the label -- or other unapproved hormones and steroids, according to a study published Tuesday in the medical journal JAMA

Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators Sold via the Internet

This study conducted web-based searches for products marketed as selective androgen receptor modulators, which are performance-enhancing drugs that have not been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration, and compared the chemical identities and the amount of ingredients in each product...

jamanetwork.com

SARMS are still in research phase, so it's really hard to source a legit thing

also how long have you been natty gymcelling??

 

[Rkelly]

also how long have you been natty gymcelling??

I was always a lean skinny f**k (2016-2018)

I officially started end of November 2019.
I bulked up to this by Jan 2020

2020 basically did nothing due to Covid closing gyms down.
July 2021 is when I started taking it seriously again and being consistent.

 

[JackHanma]

I was always a lean skinny f**k (2016-2018)
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I officially started end of November 2019.
I bulked up to this by Jan 2020
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2020 basically did nothing due to Covid closing gyms down.
July 2021 is when I started taking it seriously again and being consistent.

Don’t listen to that other guy he’s retarded

 

[King]

Don’t listen to that other guy he’s retarded

what an irony jfl

 

[King]

Don’t listen to that other guy he’s retarded

still can you elab what I said is retarded u dumb f**k

if u r talking about recovery-

The most studies of drug-related effects on fertility have been done on male contraception, and these indicate 67% of people recover in 6 months, 90% recover in 12 months, and 100% recover in 24 months without therapy[7]. With that said, the few studies involving anabolic and androgenic use indicate that some patients require longer periods to recover, even with therapy. Note that prolonged exposure to testosterone replacement therapy, age, and East Asian ethnicity are factors that complicate recovery[8]

[7] Liu, P. Y., Swerdloff, R. S., Christenson, P. D., Handelsman, D. J., & Wang, C. (2006). Rate, extent, and modifiers of spermatogenic recovery after hormonal male contraception: an integrated analysis. The Lancet, 367(9520), 1412-1420.
[8] McBride, J. A., & Coward, R. M. (2016). Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use. Asian journal of andrology, 18(3), 373

 

[Rei]

Nolvadex/Tamoxifen

Been on it for months, to prevent gyno. X(
I've got no sides though.

 

[Rei]

I would recommend LGD

Started lusting for femboys on my first cycle with it, still continue doing so to this day

 

[Zenchy]

I was always a lean skinny f**k (2016-2018)
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I officially started end of November 2019.
I bulked up to this by Jan 2020
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2020 basically did nothing due to Covid closing gyms down.
July 2021 is when I started taking it seriously again and being consistent.

What kind of look r u going for? I would say u are at a good level rn.

 

[Rkelly]

What kind of look r u going for?

 

[King]

my first cycle with it

damn all the way I thought @Rei was 14 inch shoulder width lanket, didn't knew he was roidmaxxed

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I think u have the genes to get it natty in 2-3 years,
I would suggest trying natty for 1 year then jump on roids

 

[Neo]

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His physique is mainly chest and shoulders G. It looks achievable without enhancements.

 

[Neo]

Have you tried nuclei overloading? What are your opinons if you have?

@Rkelly

 

[89FuglyNiyguhs]

His physique is mainly chest and shoulders G. It looks achievable without enhancements.

Lazar angelov looks too photoshopped to be natty achievable, but I will admit he has perfect muscle insertions. He supposedly got sick from abusing orals and dry compounds messing up his joints.

 

[Neo]

Lazar angelov looks too photoshopped to be natty achievable, but I will admit he has perfect muscle insertions. He supposedly got sick from abusing orals and dry compounds messing up his joints.

Trust me, it’s achievable natty.

 

[King]

it’s achievable natty

U can achieve this natty-
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this is the ideal body for me

 

[Rkelly]

Have you tried nuclei overloading? What are your opinons if you have?

@Rkelly

I haven't tried it on every muscle group or done it as consistently as I would like but I do think it's legit for muscle groups that tend to recover quick and 'can take a lot of damage'. For example side delts, abs, calves, forearms, and biceps (I did nuclei training for biceps ((going to failure every day for almost a month)) and gained almost an entire inch I was also in a calorie surplus just fyi).

I've seen my delts can tolerate insane volume + frequency (can train them 3+ times a week directly imo). In one session I push my delts to the point that they are burning and can barely move but I feel completely fine a few hours later. Meanwhile areas like my chest will be sore for much longer and actually be weaker the following day if I try and directly target it again (needs longer time to recover I guess).

Generally speaking I think nulcei training works but is not optimal.
Aim for 10+ hard sets per week for a muscle group. Get enough sleep (8+hrs a night), stretch after workouts, and ice baths + EMS also helps.

 

[Rkelly]

U can achieve this natty-
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this is the ideal body for me

Looks impressive in pics and with shirt off. But with clothes on and among other people he won't look like he lifts.
David Laid has this problem.

 

[89FuglyNiyguhs]

U can achieve this natty-
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this is the ideal body for me

Yes being shredded like that is possible, but it will require hell to get there. I doubt he looks big in clothes.

 

[89FuglyNiyguhs]

Trust me, it’s achievable natty.
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Yes but with a lot less dick skin conditioning. He looks like eugen sandow, whom is often referred to as the natty limit.

 

[poopface101011]

I was always a lean skinny f**k (2016-2018)
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I officially started end of November 2019.
I bulked up to this by Jan 2020
View attachment 21278
2020 basically did nothing due to Covid closing gyms down.
July 2021 is when I started taking it seriously again and being consistent.

Nice frame. Doesn't look based on the pictures like your bulk was that successful but I can't tell. It very well may have been. Don't even consider steroids at this point. I doubt that training for 1 year with that physique that youre training properly. Idk if I just have crazy good genetics but look what I was able to achieve in 9 months naturally, having trained for 7 months improperly prior, now following the advice of Mike Israetel. I still have fat to lose before I look good but look at the mass I gained WHILE SLOWLY CUTTING.