Serious Rate my cycle (15yo male)

[mirinmirinmirin]

Preface:​

My goals are overall pubertal optimization. Facial and bodily masculinization while I still have the time. A better physique is a secondary objective. Height is also being considered here.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is still being crafted, not a final cycle. I'm not 100% sure I will be taking any of this, really.

Also, a quick Q&A, because I know these will likely be the most common critiques.

Q: Why tren?
A: This is the compound I am using primarily to support fat loss, lean contractile tissue growth, and other positive androgenic effects. I may hop off it if I deem the side effects to be too much for me to handle (although I highly doubt I will make this conclusion, 70-140mg is a pretty low dose of tren)

Q: Why not GH?
A: I would have to refrigerate that, and my parents would instantly find that shit. Also, its somewhat expensive. I need to get more money and figure out some way to hide it well from my parents. I would, ideally, be taking GH though, and probably will find a way to do so soon.

Q: Why the aggressive estrogen control?
A: The cycle will absolutely SKYROCKET my E2. That shits gonna go wild. I need to be harsh to mitigate and prevent that from happening. Also, I believe I am a bit of a hyper-aromatizer.

Q: Why such a low dose of test?
A: I do not want a substantial test base. 50mg of test is good to keep some dht in my body, and since I'm already nuking shbg with proviron and masteron, 50mg of test is MORE than enough. Shbg is a binding enzyme which binds to dht and disables it.

Primary Compounds:​

• Testosterone Enanthate: 50 mg weekly
• Trenbolone Acetate:70 mg weekly
  • I will titrate to 140 mg weekly if well tolerated
• Masteron Enanthate:210 mg weekly
  • Titrate dose upward
• Oxymetholone (Anadrol): 25 mg pre-workout
• Proviron: 40 mg ED

Ancillaries:​

• Telmisartan: (I will keep this on hand, though it may not be needed)
• Cialis: 5 mg
• Eplerenone: 50 mg ED
• Resveratrol: 700 mg ED
• Memantine: 2.5 mg, 2× weekly
• Melatonin: 100 mg ED (I may start lower and titrate up, but I will likely start at 100mgs)
• P5P: 200 mg
• Empagliflozin:25 mg ED
  • Or Dapagliflozin: 25 mg ED
  • Cheaper alternative; works fine (Empa. is preferred)

Estrogen Management​

• Letrozole: 2.5 mg ED
• Tamoxifen: 20 mg ED

Liver Support​

• NAC: 4 g ED
• Milk Thistle: 2 g ED
• Glycine: 5 g ED
• Selenium: 200 mcg

Lipids​

• Ezetimibe: 10 mg

Hair / DHT Management​

• KX-826: 2 mL
• Minoxidil: 2.5 mg oral (may later experiment with topical)

Please rate and critique my cycle in the replies. And before anyone tries to be a hero and say "but muh health and longevity and you can't mess with your body like that during puberty!", I have weighed the pros and cons of this cycle and will 100% be taking it within a week or two. So there's 0 point in trying to convince me otherwise. I did all the research, although many people (and somewhat reasonably, given my age) may doubt that.

 

[Neurodivergentt]

@genio 50mgs of test

 

[mirinmirinmirin]

@genio 50mgs of test

I do not want a substantial test base. 50mg of test is good to keep some dht in my body, and since I'm already nuking shbg with proviron and masteron, 50mg of test is MORE than enough. Shbg is a binding enzyme which binds to dht and disables it.

Obviously "50mg test" is a bit funny to hear in of itself, but if you take a second to think about it, it makes plenty of sense.

 

[Luffy]

@genio 50mgs of test

Better off just not pinning any atp

 

[Neurodivergentt]

Better off just not pinning any atp

First person to ever lower their test with exogenous hormones

I do not want a substantial test base. 50mg of test is good to keep some dht in my body, and since I'm already nuking shbg with proviron and masteron, 50mg of test is MORE than enough. Shbg is a binding enzyme which binds to dht and disables it.

I see where you’re coming from, but surely you could push it a bit higher right?

 

[mirinmirinmirin]

Better off just not pinning any atp

Just say you didn't read my goals, age, or really any of my cycle beyond the test.

I do not want a substantial test base. 50mg of test is good to keep some dht in my body, and since I'm already nuking shbg with proviron and masteron, 50mg of test is MORE than enough. Shbg is a binding enzyme which binds to dht and disables it.

Obviously "50mg test" is a bit funny to hear in of itself, but if you take a second to think about it, it makes plenty of sense.

 

[mirinmirinmirin]

First person to ever lower their test with exogenous hormones

I see where you’re coming from, but surely you could push it a bit higher right?

LOL

I probably will push it a bit higher EVENTUALLY, but injecting any substantial amount of test (e.g. 300mg pw) would be pretty retarded

 

[genio]

@genio 50mgs of test

It’s ideal not too take much at 15 dumbass
You thought I would agree with you or something?

 

[genio]

Better off just not pinning any atp

First person to ever lower their test with exogenous hormones

I see where you’re coming from, but surely you could push it a bit higher right?

You guys are fucking stupid
The other androgens are still fucking androgens
Holy shit it doesn’t matter if his test is low if he has fucking tren in his bloodstream

 

[Neurodivergentt]

It’s ideal not too take much at 15 dumbass
You thought I would agree with you or something?

Yeah I did actually. I don’t see the point of injecting at all if you’re not going to get superhuman levels of test

 

[genio]

Yeah I did actually. I don’t see the point of injecting at all if you’re not going to get superhuman levels of test

All you retards think test is only singular androgen that exists
An androgen is an androgen low test means nothing when you’re using more powerful androgens

 

[Neurodivergentt]

All you retards think test is only singular androgen that exists
An androgen is an androgen low test means nothing when you’re using more powerful androgens

DNR, test is the best compound

 

[genio]

DNR, test is the best compound

Yeah aromatizes and rapes your epiphyseal plates good one

 

[Neurodivergentt]

Yeah aromatizes and rapes your epiphyseal plates good one

It also turns you into a dimorphic Chad

 

[mirinmirinmirin]

All you retards think test is only singular androgen that exists
An androgen is an androgen low test means nothing when you’re using more powerful androgens

finally someone who isn't stupid as fuck

mfs think you need at least 300mg test pw for any given cycle

 

[Luffy]

You guys are fucking stupid
The other androgens are still fucking androgens
Holy shit it doesn’t matter if his test is low if he has fucking tren in his bloodstream

I meant there is no point in pinning test let alone 50mg

 

[HeavyMetal]

Good for your goals ig

Do you know your natural t levels?

 

[genio]

I meant there is no point in pinning test let alone 50mg

Are you fucking stupid

 

[genio]

finally someone who isn't stupid as fuck

mfs think you need at least 300mg test pw for any given cycle

Mesorx unc advice

 

[Neurodivergentt]

Are you fucking stupid

Penio

 

[mirinmirinmirin]

Good for your goals ig

Do you know your natural t levels?

I don't. I will get a blood test if/when I start my cycle ofc though

 

[genio]

I don't. I will get a blood test if/when I start my cycle ofc though

Blood tests are unnecessary tbh

 

[mirinmirinmirin]

Blood tests are unnecessary tbh

For the most part I agree, but there are a couple biomarkers I would like to check

Also I just find bloodwork interesting af

 

[genio]

For the most part I agree, but there are a couple biomarkers I would like to check

Also I just find bloodwork interesting af

Yeah it’s chill