recessed or flat maxilla

[Transposon]

i have no idea how to tell, tjats why i made this post asking

So ur like Vietnamese migrated to us?

 

[hannah]

So ur like Vietnamese migrated to us?

no i was born in the us!

 

[hannah]

i just learned tdy that flat and recessed are two dif things i thought they were interchangeable. ik that my maxilla is like bad but i cant tell which one it is help me out also what would fix it, is lefort the only option View attachment 158730@Randomized Shame @over0 @Currycelloser @Barbie @Mandy? @AuggyDauggy

@moggerofhumanity why jfl

 

[Barbie]

mid face implants or fillers dont really give forward growth, best they can do is improve the appearance of projection,

yeah its an imitation but invasive and expensive surgery isn't what she needs imo she's still gl js a little autistic over her appearance

they would only be actually useful If she had a recessed maxilla, flat zygos or infrorbital issues, but in her case the only thing she could do to actually fix her maxilla is surgeries like lefort,

she dosent have a recessed maxilla but only thing she can do is lefort lmao ?

even tho i dont think its worth getting It considering she has an asian pheno

yeah this, imo she dosent need any surgery HMTB+ and you are literally already good-looking n living life...she needs to stop pondering over so many surgeries

 

[moggerofhumanity]

Does anyone here even knows what a maxilla is?
From this pic alone (it's not a true side profile and a bit frauded it seems), you literally have top-tier forward growth, no fuckin recession jfl.
They know you're asian and just assumed you'd have a flat maxilla. Caged.
First of all, your maxillary projection is literally roughly parallel to your nose, and there is a clear smooth transition from the cheekbone to the nose, which is already enough to put to rest the recessed and 'flat' maxilla.


Your facial convexity alone would suggest that you have no recession

Well within the ideal range, albeit with a true side profile, it might be slightly lower.

 

[moggerofhumanity]

@moggerofhumanity why jfl

Check my reply. Just thought it was obvious enough, but ig not...

 

[geneticCage]

Jobs bro jobs

 

[hannah]

yeah its an imitation but invasive and expensive surgery isn't what she needs imo she's still gl js a little autistic over her appearance

its still way less invasive and expensive than lefort tho

she dosent have a recessed maxilla but only thing she can do is lefort lmao ?

everyone in this thread is confusing me boi

yeah this, imo she dosent need any surgery HMTB+ and you are literally already good-looking n living life...she needs to stop pondering over so many surgeries

surgery is all i think about nowadays legit holding me back from living life

 

[Barbie]

its still way less invasive and expensive than lefort tho

everyone in this thread is confusing me boi

surgery is all i think about nowadays legit holding me back from living life

yk how people have measured your face before, ask em although cuz ur asian its gonna be flat but stop stressing over surgery...so many ppl would kill to be on the same looks level as ya, we gotta be grateful from time to time gang

 

[geneticCage]

Hannah really you look good why would you worry about that if you can't change it without surgery (and surgery is not worth with how you look)

 

[hannah]

Does anyone here even knows what a maxilla is?
From this pic alone (it's not a true side profile and a bit frauded it seems),

i am unfortunately wearing makeup and framing side of face with hair to make my ramus look longer than it is my face is also tilted downwards slightly to make my jaw angle look better

you literally have top-tier forward growth, no fuckin recession jfl.
They know you're asian and just assumed you'd have a flat maxilla. Caged.
First of all, your maxillary projection is literally roughly parallel to your nose, and there is a clear smooth transition from the cheekbone to the nose, which is already enough to put to rest the recessed and 'flat' maxilla.
View attachment 158792

Your facial convexity alone would suggest that you have no recession
View attachment 158793
Well within the ideal range, albeit with a true side profile, it might be slightly lower.

im confused ive always seen my face as pretty flat. in the pic i posted i think it looks better than my side profile pics from a few months ago bc my face is a lot leaner but it still looks decently flat to me. maybe dysmorphia or smth

 

[moggerofhumanity]

im confused ive always seen my face as pretty flat. in the pic i posted i think it looks better than my side profile pics from a few months ago bc my face is a lot leaner but it still looks decently flat to me. maybe dysmorphia or smth

If possible, you should post a true side profile.
Something like this angle

 

[hannah]

yk how people have measured your face before, ask em although cuz ur asian its gonna be flat but stop stressing over surgery...so many ppl would kill to be on the same looks level as ya, we gotta be grateful from time to time gang

ur right i should be morw grateful i didnt rly think of that im just so so unsatisfied w my face and fantasizing abt how ill only have this face for like 3 more years helps me like cope

 

[hannah]

Hannah really you look good why would you worry about that if you can't change it without surgery (and surgery is not worth with how you look)

i appreciate it! but im planning to get a couple surgeries anyways, always room for improvement

 

[Mandy?]

Upper maxilla recessed the lower looks fine,but you shouldn’t stress since it’s very common in East Asians.

 

[hannah]

If possible, you should post a true side profile.
Something like this angle
View attachment 158806

i will try taking a better one later tdy! ill prob pm it to u if thats okay, i dont wanna make a secomd thread abt this

 

[Mandy?]

Upper maxilla recessed the lower looks fine,but you shouldn’t stress since it’s very common in East Asians.

What do you also mean “flat or recessed”,flat=recessed and also the opposite.

 

[hannah]

What do you also mean “flat or recessed”,flat=recessed and also the opposite.

im so comfused now i heard from a few ppl that flat is dif from recessed, like u can have a flat chin while not being recessed. maybe im wrong tho idk a lot

 

[moggerofhumanity]

i will try taking a better one later tdy! ill prob pm it to u if thats okay, i dont wanna make a secomd thread abt this

Feel free to do so. Btw I'll prob be asleep in a couple of hrs (brutal time zonepill) so I'll probably take a while to respond.
Btw I'm not rlly the most knowledge user here, so don't get your expectations too high. Just don't wanna disappoint.

 

[hannah]

Feel free to do so. Btw I'll prob be asleep in a couple of hrs (brutal time zonepill) so I'll probably take a while to respond.
Btw I'm not rlly the most knowledge user here, so don't get your expectations too high. Just don't wanna disappoint.

ITS OKAY i still value ur opinion

 

[geneticCage]

i appreciate it! but im planning to get a couple surgeries anyways, always room for improvement

What you plan on doing

 

[Mandy?]

im so comfused now i heard from a few ppl that flat is dif from recessed, like u can have a flat chin while not being recessed. maybe im wrong tho idk a lot

It’s the same thing as saying recessed maxilla=underbite. The maxilla develops laterally,vertically and foward,if it dosen’t seem developed in one of these accepts then it’s recessed. Also a flat chin is the same as recessed one,a recessed chin can have projection it dosen’t matter, if your chin dosen’t align with your lips properly then it’s recessed.

 

[Mandy?]

It’s the same thing as saying recessed maxilla=underbite. The maxilla develops laterally,vertically and foward,if it dosen’t seem developed in one of these accepts then it’s recessed. Also a flat chin is the same as recessed one,a recessed chin can have projection it dosen’t matter, if your chin dosen’t align with your lips properly then it’s recessed.

Flat maxilla just equals recessed. For example I could say Robert Pattinson has a flat maxilla and it literally just means recessed maxilla.

 

[hannah]

It’s the same thing as saying recessed maxilla=underbite. The maxilla develops laterally,vertically and foward,if it dosen’t seem developed in one of these accepts then it’s recessed. Also a flat chin is the same as recessed one,a recessed chin can have projection it dosen’t matter, if your chin dosen’t align with your lips properly then it’s recessed.

smart cookie, rhis is why i tagged you do u think itd be worth it to get lefort/implants

 

[Transposon]

Does anyone here even knows what a maxilla is?
From this pic alone (it's not a true side profile and a bit frauded it seems), you literally have top-tier forward growth, no fuckin recession jfl.
They know you're asian and just assumed you'd have a flat maxilla. Caged.
First of all, your maxillary projection is literally roughly parallel to your nose, and there is a clear smooth transition from the cheekbone to the nose, which is already enough to put to rest the recessed and 'flat' maxilla.
View attachment 158792

Your facial convexity alone would suggest that you have no recession
View attachment 158793
Well within the ideal range, albeit with a true side profile, it might be slightly lower.

I will send dick pics on forum if she doesn’t have an under ideal maxilla according to actual working softwares not this bs D you’re putting without reference to picture frame. Fuck is this bs brah?

 

[Mandy?]

smart cookie, rhis is why i tagged you do u think itd be worth it to get lefort/implants

generally speaking yes,it’s a huge looksmax when Asians have a more projected maxilla. But Le fort 1 will usually advance the lower maxilla and you’ll probably not candidate for Le fort 2. I saw this custom implant construct for mid face augmentation maybe you’ll like this.

A bit lighter on the zygos would be perfect.

 

[ΑDAM]

no i was born in the us!

Have you got any Scottish or Italian in you?

 

[Transposon]

generally speaking yes,it’s a huge looksmax when Asians have a more projected maxilla. But Le fort 1 will usually advance the lower maxilla and you’ll probably not candidate for Le fort 2. I saw this custom implant construct for mid face augmentation maybe you’ll like this.
View attachment 158830
A bit lighter on the zygos would be perfect.

She (possibly) has a type 2 malocclusion

 

[scotcel]

Mirin side profile

 

[hannah]

@scotcel be kind

 

[scotcel]

@scotcel be kind

mb

 

[Mandy?]

Does anyone here even knows what a maxilla is?
From this pic alone (it's not a true side profile and a bit frauded it seems), you literally have top-tier forward growth, no fuckin recession jfl.
They know you're asian and just assumed you'd have a flat maxilla. Caged.
First of all, your maxillary projection is literally roughly parallel to your nose, and there is a clear smooth transition from the cheekbone to the nose, which is already enough to put to rest the recessed and 'flat' maxilla.
View attachment 158792

Your facial convexity alone would suggest that you have no recession
View attachment 158793
Well within the ideal range, albeit with a true side profile, it might be slightly lower.

The facial convexity angle is not the best way to calculate maxillary recession. Other ratios say otherwise

Too lazy to put in the exact degrees,but it’s definitely not a projected maxilla especially in the upper region you can see it by nose bridge.
My projection for example is way steeper

 

[Transposon]

She (possibly) has a type 2 malocclusion

@Jane Doe have u gotten braces

 

[Mandy?]

She (possibly) has a type 2 malocclusion

Depends on the bite,recessed dosen’t always equal malocclusion.

 

[kkkardash]

i just learned tdy that flat and recessed are two dif things i thought they were interchangeable. ik that my maxilla is like bad but i cant tell which one it is help me out also what would fix it, is lefort the only option View attachment 158730@Randomized Shame @over0 @Currycelloser @Barbie @Mandy? @AuggyDauggy

I just wanna boop your nose

 

[Transposon]

Depends on the bite,recessed dosen’t always equal malocclusion.

Never claimed anything above a possible malocclusion. I suspect there’s a deepbite

 

[hannah]

generally speaking yes,it’s a huge looksmax when Asians have a more projected maxilla. But Le fort 1 will usually advance the lower maxilla and you’ll probably not candidate for Le fort 2. I saw this custom implant construct for mid face augmentation maybe you’ll like this.
View attachment 158830
A bit lighter on the zygos would be perfect.

omg ive actually been looking into custom 3d implants thank u mandy

 

[scotcel]

omg ive actually been looking into custom 3d implants thank u mandy

you aren’t getting them

 

[hannah]

She (possibly) has a type 2 malocclusion

whats that?

 

[hannah]

you aren’t getting them

not soon, but in around 3 years

 

[Mandy?]

whats that?

Overbite

 

[scotcel]

not soon, but in around 3 years

nobody here is getting implants

 

[moggerofhumanity]

I will send dick pics on forum if she doesn’t have an under ideal maxilla according to actual working softwares not this bs D you’re putting without reference to picture frame. Fuck is this bs brah?

Just try to speak normally instead of this pretentious crap of a facade that you always put up. Does it never get tiring for you?
Such muh high iq and yet the least articulate user ironically.
The 'bs' you're referring to are:
1. One of the most well known definitions of well-developed maxillas
"Upper maxillary projection is characterized by the area from the front of the cheekbone to the back of the nose being a smooth transition when viewed from the side"

2. Something common to all those with good maxillas





3. Facial convexity
Literally one of the most well known facial measurements. You fucking denying this shit?


Your need to disprove something when there is absolutely no fucking need for it is utterly retarded.
Kindly

So that maybe you can stop giving me second hand embarrassment from your atrocious attempts to larp high iq.
I'm always kind to everyone, but smth just rubs me the wrong way this time.
Just never fucking speak again unless you have even an infinitesimal clue on what that fucking shit is.

 

[hannah]

Have you got any Scottish or Italian in you?

im not sure, my grandpa is mixed but i think its mostly french. too distant to count it + i dont have any european features so i just say im viet

 

[ΑDAM]

im not sure, my grandpa is mixed but i think its mostly french. too distant to count it + i dont have any european features so i just say im viet

You want some (I’m 6,3 hmtn-lhtn) (also sorry for being weird i thought it would be funny)

 

[Transposon]

Just try to speak normally instead of this pretentious crap of a facade that you always put up. Does it never get tiring for you?
Such muh high iq and yet the least articulate user ironically.
The 'bs' you're referring to are:
1. One of the most well known definitions of well-developed maxillas
"Upper maxillary projection is characterized by the area from the front of the cheekbone to the back of the nose being a smooth transition when viewed from the side"
View attachment 158839
2. Something common to all those with good maxillas
View attachment 158847

View attachment 158849
View attachment 158848

3. Facial convexity
Literally one of the most well known facial measurements. You fucking denying this shit?
View attachment 158851

Your need to disprove something when there is absolutely no fucking need for it is utterly retarded.
Kindly
View attachment 158852
So that maybe you can stop giving me second hand embarrassment from your atrocious attempts to larp high iq.
I'm always kind to everyone, but smth just rubs me the wrong way this time.
Just never fucking speak again unless you have even an infinitesimal clue on what that fucking shit is.
View attachment 158855

Please! Show me where I argued about the ‘fact of facial convexity’. The pretense to the argument is flawed. You’re being disingenuous but it won’t work. Not with someone above 90 IQ at least. Even while trying this analysis of ‘the thing’ you claim to be an expert of, it’s erroneous. Let me craft a longer reply and address all the flaws. Your cope will NOT last.

 

[moggerofhumanity]

Please! Show me where I argued about the ‘fact of facial convexity’. The pretense to the argument is flawed. You’re being disingenuous but it won’t work. Not with someone above 90 IQ at least

Again the pretentious language continues

Even while trying this analysis of ‘the thing’ you claim to be an expert of, it’s erroneous

I said this

Btw I'm not rlly the most knowledge user here, so don't get your expectations too high. Just don't wanna disappoint.

Let me craft a longer reply and address all the flaws

Please do. I do still wanna learn.

Please! Show me where I argued about the ‘fact of facial convexity’.

That's the power of making vague statements isn't it. You straight up just said "not this bs D you’re putting without reference to picture frame" how tf am I supposed to know which is which, hence I answered them all.

 

[Transposon]

Just try to speak normally instead of this pretentious crap of a facade that you always put up. Does it never get tiring for you?
Such muh high iq and yet the least articulate user ironically.
The 'bs' you're referring to are:
1. One of the most well known definitions of well-developed maxillas
"Upper maxillary projection is characterized by the area from the front of the cheekbone to the back of the nose being a smooth transition when viewed from the side"
View attachment 158839
2. Something common to all those with good maxillas
View attachment 158847

View attachment 158849
View attachment 158848

3. Facial convexity
Literally one of the most well known facial measurements. You fucking denying this shit?
View attachment 158851

Your need to disprove something when there is absolutely no fucking need for it is utterly retarded.
Kindly
View attachment 158852
So that maybe you can stop giving me second hand embarrassment from your atrocious attempts to larp high iq.
I'm always kind to everyone, but smth just rubs me the wrong way this time.
Just never fucking speak again unless you have even an infinitesimal clue on what that fucking shit is.
View attachment 158855

Did anyone notice the ad hominem or is it just me? First shit test for a disingenuous retort is as hominem. Every, time..

 

[hannah]

@Jane Doe have u gotten braces

im currently doing invisalign! ive only had it for 1 month, totals gonna be abt 18 months

 

[hannah]

I just wanna boop your nose

i love you