Guide Testosterone esterification

[trvecel]

i sent studies and gave actual arguments and also i have irls that pin in puberty

testosterone is gonna sealnyour palates faster sure but its gonna make you taller and its also gonna improve facial structure

elaborate as to why you would use testosterone over orals like winstrol first of all

 

[foidslayer]

elaborate as to why you would use testosterone over orals like winstrol first of all

it is much harsher on liver and cholesterol which will likely fuck up igf-1 production

testosterone IS gonna seal palates faster but it's also gonna make u taller not to mention added benefits

 

[foidslayer]

Youre smarter than the other @foidslayer anyways

didn't you lose the arguement and announced your leave for 3 days

 

[vamp]

inb4 10 off topic only n*****s call ts high IQ

Offtopic n***a aka tcj calling this low iq

 

[genio]

didn't you lose the arguement and announced your leave for 3 days

No it never concluded

 

[genio]

it is much harsher on liver and cholesterol which will likely fuck up igf-1 production

testosterone IS gonna seal palates faster but it's also gonna make u taller not to mention added benefits

n***a js take ancs
Winstrol mogs

 

[Niggard]

Basic organics

 

[genio]

i sent studies and gave actual arguments and also i have irls that pin in puberty

testosterone is gonna sealnyour palates faster sure but its gonna make you taller and its also gonna improve facial structure

You didnt even elaborate on any of your studies
One of them literally proved one of my points
Anecdotes are the worst form of evidence btw

 

[foidslayer]

You didnt even elaborate on any of your studies
One of them literally proved one of my points
Anecdotes are the worst form of evidence btw

only point it proved is that e2 has no cognitive effects r****d

 

[genio]

only point it proved is that e2 has no cognitive effects r****d

Ok show me a study where supraphysiological test results in height growth

 

[genio]

it is much harsher on liver and cholesterol which will likely fuck up igf-1 production

testosterone IS gonna seal palates faster but it's also gonna make u taller not to mention added benefits

Heres winstrol btw r****d

https://www.nature.com/articles/pr1993387.pdf

 

[foidslayer]

Ok show me a study where supraphysiological test results in height growth

Is testosterone therapy for boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty associated with impaired final height and suppression of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis? - European Journal of Pediatrics

We report the treatment of 44 boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty (CDGP) at a mean chronological age of 14.3 years (range, 12.4–17.1) and bone age of 12.1 years (range, 9.1–15.0). All were below the 3rd height percentile for chronological age. They reccived monthly intramuscular...

link.springer.com

from 4.5cm/year to 8.8cm/year jfl

 

[genio]

Least liver toxic oral behind anavar btw
You can also bypass major liver toxicity by pinning it instead of taking it orally so your point is bunk

 

[foidslayer]

Least liver toxic oral behind anavar btw
You can also bypass major liver toxicity by pinning it instead of taking it orally so your point is bunk

he was talking about oral winstrol nga i answered him for oral winstrol are u retarded?

 

[genio]

Is testosterone therapy for boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty associated with impaired final height and suppression of the hypothalamo-pituitary-gonadal axis? - European Journal of Pediatrics

We report the treatment of 44 boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty (CDGP) at a mean chronological age of 14.3 years (range, 12.4–17.1) and bone age of 12.1 years (range, 9.1–15.0). All were below the 3rd height percentile for chronological age. They reccived monthly intramuscular...

link.springer.com

from 4.5cm/year to 8.8cm/year jfl

@trvecel cage at this r****d
Key note: fucking supraphysiological

 

[genio]

he was talking about oral winstrol nga i answered him for oral winstrol are u retarded?

Yeah
Even orally it isnt that fucking liver toxic

 

[trvecel]

@trvecel cage at this r****d
Key note: fucking supraphysiological
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50mg is supraphysiological saar!

 

[foidslayer]

Yeah
Even orally it isnt that fucking liver toxic

yeah sure bro

 

[trvecel]

yeah sure bro

hes right even then you can take NAC or tudca or both to help with the liver toxicity

 

[genio]

yeah sure bro

Its literally the second least liver toxic oral
Anavar < winny < adrol < halo

 

[foidslayer]

Its literally the second least liver toxic oral
Anavar < winny < adrol < halo

n***a im saying alright you're right now stop blabbering

 

[genio]

50mg is supraphysiological saar!

These boys already have CDGP. Injecting 50mg in a normal boy will js make their test the same or lower

 

[genio]

n***a im saying alright you're right now stop blabbering

Yeah get fucking humbled r****d im your fucking daddy i own you you stupid n****r i iqmog you to hell you stupid fuck im your god im your daddy im your master

But muh test muh test it wont close my plates muh test

 

[foidslayer]

Yeah get fucking humbled r****d im your fucking daddy i own you you stupid n****r i iqmog you to hell you stupid fuck im your god im your daddy im your master View attachment 372944
But muh test muh test it wont close my plates muh test

When did i ever say it won't close your plates

Who's 6'3 and who's 5'8 here

 

[genio]

When did i ever say it won't close your plates

Who's 6'3 and who's 5'8 here

n*****s gonna chalk it up to high T
Whose parents are fucking 5’ and 5’6 n***a what was i supposed to do about it JFL
WHO’S THE MASTER AND WHO’S THE SLAVE n***a I IQMOG YOUUUU I IQMOGGG YOUUUUUUU

 

[foidslayer]

n*****s gonna chalk it up to high T
Whose parents are fucking 5’ and 5’6 n***a what was i supposed to do about it JFL
WHO’S THE MASTER AND WHO’S THE SLAVE n***a I IQMOG YOUUUU I IQMOGGG YOUUUUUUU

my dad is 5'10 and my mom is 5'5 your arguement about that is invalid + I also have irl pinners in puberty they're around my height too

 

[genio]

my dad is 5'10 and my mom is 5'5 your arguement about that is invalid + I also have irl pinners in puberty they're around my height too

n***a 5’10 and 5’5 is vastly different from 5’6 and 5’ jfl
WHATD I SAY ABOUT ANECDOTES n***a
LOOK AT THE LITERATURE LOLLLLL

Anecdotes are the worst form of evidence btw

 

[foidslayer]

n***a 5’10 and 5’5 is vastly different from 5’6 and 5’ jfl
WHATD I SAY ABOUT ANECDOTES n***a
LOOK AT THE LITERATURE LOLLLLL

cope 5'10 and 5'6 isnt enough to get to 6'3
no one's forcing you to take test bro suit yourself

 

[genio]

cope 5'10 and 5'6 isnt enough to get to 6'3
no one's forcing you to take test bro suit yourself

It’s enough if youre genetics are js expressed luckily? Outliers exist
You comparing your height to mine means literally nothing when literature exists youre a year older than me too
n***a im forcing you to get fucking OWNED BY GENIO n***a PUT IT IN YOUR TITLE JFLLL YOURE RETARDED I IQMOG YOU TO HELL
YOU CANT FIND A GOOD ARGUMENT n***a IM YOUR DADDY

 

[trvecel]

When did i ever say it won't close your plates

Who's 6'3 and who's 5'8 here

acting like height isnt 80% genetics

 

[genio]

acting like height isnt 80% genetics

Genuinely

 

[foidslayer]

It’s enough if youre genetics are js expressed luckily? Outliers exist
You comparing your height to mine means literally nothing when literature exists youre a year older than me too
n***a im forcing you to get fucking OWNED BY GENIO n***a PUT IT IN YOUR TITLE JFLLL YOURE RETARDED I IQMOG YOU TO HELL
YOU CANT FIND A GOOD ARGUMENT n***a IM YOUR DADDY

the pinners i know irl were 6'2-6'4 at 14 invalid argument

 

[foidslayer]

acting like height isnt 80% genetics

js explained how it isn't genetics for me

matter of fact i was 5'5

 

[trvecel]

js explained how it isn't genetics for me

matter of fact i was 5'5

elaborate

 

[genio]

the pinners i know irl were 6'2-6'4 at 14 invalid argument

n***a anecdotes are an invalid argument? @trvecel what is this blud talking about
Anecdotal evidence is literally a cited logical fallacy

 

[foidslayer]

elaborate

i was 5'5

started doing everything possible to increase test (keyword EVERYTHING) to the point id try my best for there not to be a single minute of my day not optimized properly for test

resulted in me growing to 6'0 then 6'3 that I am now

I would've not grown to this extent no way in hell

 

[trvecel]

@Hypertrophy humble this f****t foidslayer thinking that supraphysiological test will make you taller and that win is bad

 

[foidslayer]

n***a anecdotes are an invalid argument? @trvecel what is this blud talking about
Anecdotal evidence is literally a cited logical fallacy
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bro suit yourself no one's forcing you to pin test do whatever

 

[trvecel]

started doing everything possible to increase test (keyword EVERYTHING) to the point id try my best for there not to be a single minute of my day not optimized properly for test

what exactly did you do

 

[foidslayer]

@Hypertrophy humble this f****t foidslayer thinking that supraphysiological test will make you taller and that win is bad

never said win is bad btw

 

[trvecel]

never said win is bad btw

muh its liver toxic and test better saar!

 

[foidslayer]

what exactly did you do

what didn't i do

im gatekeeping for the most part until my guide is out jfl but my growth palates did close much faster unfortunately

 

[foidslayer]

muh its liver toxic and test better saar!

you were talking about oral winstrol

 

[trvecel]

what didn't i do

im gatekeeping for the most part until my guide is out jfl but my growth palates did close much faster unfortunately

did you pin test?

 

[trvecel]

you were talking about oral winstrol

so you think test better than oral win?

 

[genio]

i was 5'5

started doing everything possible to increase test (keyword EVERYTHING) to the point id try my best for there not to be a single minute of my day not optimized properly for test

resulted in me growing to 6'0 then 6'3 that I am now

I would've not grown to this extent no way in hell

Literally cope
Natural test optimization is one thing
We are talking about fucking steroids which will increase your shit substantially more
This is irrelevant to the argument
Btw all the things you did to increase test probably also benefited every other factor of health leading to increased height anyways

 

[genio]

bro suit yourself no one's forcing you to pin test do whatever

This is you just coping atp
This how you know the n***a is wrong

 

[foidslayer]

did you pin test?

I wish I did but there's other methods

obviously not as effective as pinning it but will increase your natural test levels by a great marjin

I'm gonna run some tests in the lab to get the before and after test levels for the guide

 

[foidslayer]

Literally cope
Natural test optimization is one thing
We are talking about fucking steroids which will increase your shit substantially more
This is irrelevant to the argument
Btw all the things you did to increase test probably also benefited every other factor of health leading to increased height anyways

other factors sure helped but I focused on only testosterone

 

[foidslayer]

so you think test better than oral win?

I think they both have their advantages and disadvantages but for me personally i wouldn't make the tradeoff