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The Bloom Doom collagen guide.
The images, are other looksmax.org threads that can no longer even be clicked anymore
"
You’re probably thinking, “Oh, I eat chicken every day—I’m fine.”
But here’s the catch. Collagen is not in a salmon fillet or a piece of
chicken breast—but in the animals’ skin, joints, bones, and muscle
tissue. - Sally Olivia Kim (Author of The Collagen Glow)



The collagen glow is a book, https://www.amazon.com/Collagen-Glow-Guide-Ingestible-Skincare/dp/1682683338.
Not a source. She is trying to sell her product, and using a book to advance those means
Your body already makes collagen from the amino acids found in food
The only studies showing benefits of direct collagen consumption was megadosing with supplements
The reasoning, is really lazy, and mentions useless supplements, like gin seng, beta carotene, and zinc have weak evidence for them
The peptide section is entirely copy and pasted from Lookmax
No dosaging or anything, I mean I didn't do that in my methylene blue thread but I also didn't intend for it to be placed in "Must Reads"
Collagen powder is NOT absorbed most efficiently


This thread, was something else to say the least
I've already shown how bovine milk is unnecessary for human consumption, and claiming that it makes you taller, just lol.
Then, he cites a shoddy correlation that the tallest countries consume the most milk.
Kazakhstan is ranked 9th on this list, and guess what? They stand at a whopping 174 centimeters on average. Israel is further down the list yet are still taller, at around 176 centimeters on average
This is also just blatantly crappy evidence, based on a faulty link.
He then cites that the Dinka and Maasai are tall and then says its because of the milk.
Now, this is finally some legit evidence, right? They are the tallest in the world broo!
There are millions of other factors, and this is not a legitimate approach, such as sufficient sunlight, low stress, good circadian rhythm sleep, etc. etc.
The Himba tribe also consume tons of milk, and stand at around 5'6 to 5'9
The Borana tribe also consume tons of milk and stand at around 5'7 to 5'9
Not to mention the potential of sexual selection and genetics?
Dietary IGF-1 will not be significant enough to make you taller, or necessarily used.
The vitamin D section, is pretty valid. Fatty fish during winter, moderate amounts of sunlight in the summer.
The rest of this guide, is actually pretty good. But this is just a generic healthy diet, good for development, it's not "heightmaxxing guide", it's to allow you to properly develop.
also just lol at this

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Phytoestrogens bind to estrogen, if anything it would be the opposite
However, meta analysis's show that it does nothing

Now, for another heightmaxxing thread

Protein is necessary, but there's absolutely nothing saying that you have to overconsume it
Recommends stretching, which is good short term for posture, but really won't improve height that much
Swimming to increase height? This isn't backed by anything
Swimmers are often taller and wider because this frame allows them to swim faster, but isn't necessarily evidence that swimming makes you taller
Then, he recommends HGH.
HGH definitely works if you are deficient, but if you aren't deficient, doesn't do anything, even in young children.

He then recommends scam artist supplements that "boost height"
They have nutrients. That's it. You can meet your sufficient nutrient intake without these scam "heightmaxxing" supplements
The only good info in there was the LL and shoe lifts, but that's the same with every heightmaxxing tactic
I actually really like this thread on heightmaxxing from .org, I'll put it here
Since most of the methods recommended are in fact cope and not backed up by anything, you can hear it here first hand:
https://shorturl.at/jyvbp

This thread is ok but there's nothing linked, no reasoning for anything, and taking collagen will likely cause issues
Not really any benefit to aromatase inhibitors, they will lower libido
Estrogen is also essential for anti aging, which is looksmaxxing??

"
Vitamin Bcomp
Lactobacillus (for digestion to get rid of bloating and other Jewish digestion stuff)
Melatonin"
"jewish digestion stuff??"
You don't need supplements for this, just consume actual probiotics
DHT gel is purely used for micropenis, it's similar to HGH in a way, it works if you are severely underdeveloped in it, but "blasting" won't make any improvements
And again, no reasoning for anything just throwing supplements at us
At least, unlike the heightmaxxing threads it didn't promise anything

Next up, the diet that improves your beauty!!!

These tribes may be well developed, but there are tons of examples of people developing fine on a normal diet

First, he uses a ton of buzzwords
To list some: processed, synthetic, pasteurized

None of these indicate that it's actually bad, or inherently worse

Dr. Price lived in a time frame where we didn't have supplementation, health conscious people that could actually afford food, and hadn't even discovered all of the amino acids.
He lists anecdotal observations, such as them consuming raw milk, with no reasoning behind it

"
These diets were up to 10 times richer in some nutrients such as fat-soluble vitamins such as K2 and D3.

Due to a poor diet and hyperexploitation of the soil, today we are forced to often supplement with some nutrients such as vitamin D or magnesium because the percentage of people with a deficiency of these substances is ridiculously high."

More nutrient rich means nothing, excess nutrients do nothing of benefit

Not everyone needs these supplements, most people do not follow the recommendations for diet.

Says to consume raw foods, ?? No reasoning that he posted behind it

Most people cannot obtain these raw foods fresh, which will allow for bacteria and parasites to proliferate which could be harmful

Says the omega 3:6 balance, yet advocates for saturated fats. Lean game, natural animals often are mostly omega 3s. https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html4ever/020204.Watkins.paleo.html#:~:text=According to Watkins, the analysis,compared to grain-fed beef.
Says to consume collagen further, despite it being unnecessary


"
So we need very little for it to ruin our hormonal balance. You are not consuming pesticides such as glyphosate, which may not harm you but harm your microbiota and generate intestinal permeability.


These cultures do not consume any plastic, nor do they use non-stick pans that contain the famous BPA, these endocrine disruptors affect both men and women. So not pastic.

Not eating industrialized foods also means that you are not eating foods with an altered macronutrient composition, where we consume more carbohydrates than we should and less proteins than we should, this causes our body composition to change. It makes us have less muscle, and worse hormonal balance, and also more body fat."
Firstly, glyphosate needs to be in extremely high dosages to make any effect.
Avoiding BPA is good, but ultimately won't make significant differences.

Carbs aren't necessarily the issue although I am not really for high carbohydrate diets, it's more so the slop processed carbohydrates , refined sugars and grains

Yes hormone disruptions will make a difference but none of this is significant enough to make any change

more about the muh "The second obvious element is that this diet, being rich in foods of HIGH NUTRITIONAL VALUE and rich in fats, is rich in fat-soluble vitamins such as Vitamins A, D3, E and K2."
Everything on this forum seems to be high high high, blast it broo, because, you just have to!
He then shows a study on rats on how k2 deficiencies effect the body. Key word deficiencies, K2 deficiency is also pretty rare since most people consume sufficient animal products. But it's about the excess brooo!!
"Avoid polyunsaturated oils as much as possible, which generally come in the form of: sunflower oil, soybean oil, canola oil, margarine, corn oil, etc."
He then says to avoid them as much as possible, when they are fine in moderation.
"This type of diet rich in saturated fats has paradoxically been shown to reduce lipoprotein A, one of the most important factors of cardiovascular risk, this tells us something strange."
The reasoning behind this is extremely inconsistent, and he doesn't list any mechanical function on why this would occur
"They always spoke badly to us about saturated fats and it was always taught that saturated fat was the most dangerous for generating cardiovascular diseases, however studies and autopsies carried out on plaques that normally form in the coronary artery or in the aorta, showed that they are made of polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAS), the most pro-inflammatory. And not saturated fats as previously thought."
Now trys to play it off as a conspiracy theory, and blames PUFAs for a variety of diseases. Omega-6s are still essential for human health, it's all about the ratio. Saturated fats are receiving more positive light, however they still do not reflect the common consensus
This also lacks any research, as I said before
Regardless of this loosey goosy blog writing, there is no diet that "improves your beauty".

@N9wiff ⋆。°✩ @ey88
 
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The Bloom Doom collagen guide.
The images, are other ************ threads that can no longer even be clicked anymore
"
You’re probably thinking, “Oh, I eat chicken every day—I’m fine.”
But here’s the catch. Collagen is not in a salmon fillet or a piece of
chicken breast—but in the animals’ skin, joints, bones, and muscle
tissue. - Sally Olivia Kim (Author of The Collagen Glow)



The collagen glow is a book, https://www.amazon.com/Collagen-Glow-Guide-Ingestible-Skincare/dp/1682683338.
Not a source. She is trying to sell her product, and using a book to advance those means
Your body already makes collagen from the amino acids found in food
The only studies showing benefits of direct collagen consumption was megadosing with supplements
The reasoning, is really lazy, and mentions useless supplements, like gin seng, beta carotene, and zinc have weak evidence for them
The peptide section is entirely copy and pasted from Lookmax
No dosaging or anything, I mean I didn't do that in my methylene blue thread but I also didn't intend for it to be placed in "Must Reads"
Collagen powder is NOT absorbed most efficiently


This thread, was something else to say the least
I've already shown how bovine milk is unnecessary for human consumption, and claiming that it makes you taller, just lol.
Then, he cites a shoddy correlation that the tallest countries consume the most milk.
Kazakhstan is ranked 9th on this list, and guess what? They stand at a whopping 174 centimeters on average. Israel is further down the list yet are still taller, at around 176 centimeters on average
This is also just blatantly crappy evidence, based on a faulty link.
He then cites that the Dinka and Maasai are tall and then says its because of the milk.
Now, this is finally some legit evidence, right? They are the tallest in the world broo!
There are millions of other factors, and this is not a legitimate approach, such as sufficient sunlight, low stress, good circadian rhythm sleep, etc. etc.
The Himba tribe also consume tons of milk, and stand at around 5'6 to 5'9
The Borana tribe also consume tons of milk and stand at around 5'7 to 5'9
Not to mention the potential of sexual selection and genetics?
Dietary IGF-1 will not be significant enough to make you taller, or necessarily used.
The vitamin D section, is pretty valid. Fatty fish during winter, moderate amounts of sunlight in the summer.
The rest of this guide, is actually pretty good. But this is just a generic healthy diet, good for development, it's not "heightmaxxing guide", it's to allow you to properly develop.
also just lol at this

View attachment 72402
Phytoestrogens bind to estrogen, if anything it would be the opposite
However, meta analysis's show that it does nothing

Now, for another heightmaxxing thread

Protein is necessary, but there's absolutely nothing saying that you have to overconsume it
Recommends stretching, which is good short term for posture, but really won't improve height that much
Swimming to increase height? This isn't backed by anything
Swimmers are often taller and wider because this frame allows them to swim faster, but isn't necessarily evidence that swimming makes you taller
Then, he recommends HGH.
HGH definitely works if you are deficient, but if you aren't deficient, doesn't do anything, even in young children.

He then recommends scam artist supplements that "boost height"
They have nutrients. That's it. You can meet your sufficient nutrient intake without these scam "heightmaxxing" supplements
The only good info in there was the LL and shoe lifts, but that's the same with every heightmaxxing tactic
I actually really like this thread on heightmaxxing from .org, I'll put it here
Since most of the methods recommended are in fact cope and not backed up by anything, you can hear it here first hand:
https://shorturl.at/jyvbp

This thread is ok but there's nothing linked, no reasoning for anything, and taking collagen will likely cause issues
Not really any benefit to aromatase inhibitors, they will lower libido
Estrogen is also essential for anti aging, which is looksmaxxing??

"
Vitamin Bcomp
Lactobacillus (for digestion to get rid of bloating and other Jewish digestion stuff)
Melatonin"
"jewish digestion stuff??"
You don't need supplements for this, just consume actual probiotics
DHT gel is purely used for micropenis, it's similar to HGH in a way, it works if you are severely underdeveloped in it, but "blasting" won't make any improvements
And again, no reasoning for anything just throwing supplements at us
At least, unlike the heightmaxxing threads it didn't promise anything

Next up, the diet that improves your beauty!!!

These tribes may be well developed, but there are tons of examples of people developing fine on a normal diet

First, he uses a ton of buzzwords
To list some: processed, synthetic, pasteurized

None of these indicate that it's actually bad, or inherently worse

Dr. Price lived in a time frame where we didn't have supplementation, health conscious people that could actually afford food, and hadn't even discovered all of the amino acids.
He lists anecdotal observations, such as them consuming raw milk, with no reasoning behind it

"
These diets were up to 10 times richer in some nutrients such as fat-soluble vitamins such as K2 and D3.

Due to a poor diet and hyperexploitation of the soil, today we are forced to often supplement with some nutrients such as vitamin D or magnesium because the percentage of people with a deficiency of these substances is ridiculously high."

More nutrient rich means nothing, excess nutrients do nothing of benefit

Not everyone needs these supplements, most people do not follow the recommendations for diet.

Says to consume raw foods, ?? No reasoning that he posted behind it

Most people cannot obtain these raw foods fresh, which will allow for bacteria and parasites to proliferate which could be harmful

Says the omega 3:6 balance, yet advocates for saturated fats. Lean game, natural animals often are mostly omega 3s. https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html4ever/020204.Watkins.paleo.html#:~:text=According to Watkins, the analysis,compared to grain-fed beef.
Says to consume collagen further, despite it being unnecessary


"
So we need very little for it to ruin our hormonal balance. You are not consuming pesticides such as glyphosate, which may not harm you but harm your microbiota and generate intestinal permeability.


These cultures do not consume any plastic, nor do they use non-stick pans that contain the famous BPA, these endocrine disruptors affect both men and women. So not pastic.

Not eating industrialized foods also means that you are not eating foods with an altered macronutrient composition, where we consume more carbohydrates than we should and less proteins than we should, this causes our body composition to change. It makes us have less muscle, and worse hormonal balance, and also more body fat."
Firstly, glyphosate needs to be in extremely high dosages to make any effect.
Avoiding BPA is good, but ultimately won't make significant differences.

Carbs aren't necessarily the issue although I am not really for high carbohydrate diets, it's more so the slop processed carbohydrates , refined sugars and grains

Yes hormone disruptions will make a difference but none of this is significant enough to make any change

more about the muh "The second obvious element is that this diet, being rich in foods of HIGH NUTRITIONAL VALUE and rich in fats, is rich in fat-soluble vitamins such as Vitamins A, D3, E and K2."
Everything on this forum seems to be high high high, blast it broo, because, you just have to!
He then shows a study on rats on how k2 deficiencies effect the body. Key word deficiencies, K2 deficiency is also pretty rare since most people consume sufficient animal products. But it's about the excess brooo!!
"Avoid polyunsaturated oils as much as possible, which generally come in the form of: sunflower oil, soybean oil, canola oil, margarine, corn oil, etc."
He then says to avoid them as much as possible, when they are fine in moderation.
"This type of diet rich in saturated fats has paradoxically been shown to reduce lipoprotein A, one of the most important factors of cardiovascular risk, this tells us something strange."
The reasoning behind this is extremely inconsistent, and he doesn't list any mechanical function on why this would occur
"They always spoke badly to us about saturated fats and it was always taught that saturated fat was the most dangerous for generating cardiovascular diseases, however studies and autopsies carried out on plaques that normally form in the coronary artery or in the aorta, showed that they are made of polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAS), the most pro-inflammatory. And not saturated fats as previously thought."
Now trys to play it off as a conspiracy theory, and blames PUFAs for a variety of diseases. Omega-6s are still essential for human health, it's all about the ratio. Saturated fats are receiving more positive light, however they still do not reflect the common consensus
This also lacks any research, as I said before
Regardless of this loosey goosy blog writing, there is no diet that "improves your beauty".

@N9wiff ⋆。°✩ @ey88
What are your thots on the raw shi?
 
More nutrients for less calories, if it's red meat lower risk of cancer
cooked food is more nutritionally dense when adjusted for proportions
it can spoil easily, it's insufficient and not ideal
even if it does lower risk of cancer you will have excessive heme-iron and nutrients in general, will damage the gut microbiome and create various issues
 
cooked food is more nutritionally dense when adjusted for proportions
it can spoil easily, it's insufficient and not ideal
even if it does lower risk of cancer you will have excessive heme-iron and nutrients in general, will damage the gut microbiome and create various issues
Excess nutrients? It's way more dense and cheaper to consume them raw
Bacteria and parasites are mostly cope if natural
 
Excess nutrients? It's way more dense and cheaper to consume them raw
Bacteria and parasites are mostly cope if natural
Yes, excess nutrients are real
Heme-iron is extremely absorbable, a long with some other extremely absorbable nutrients. They either are stored, creating fat, or destroy the gut
Bacteria and parasites are absolutely not cope, not everything is living in symbiosis with you, and that claim is based on pretty much nothing
 
even if it is nutritionally superior, no reason to do it if it isn't fresh
but I doubt you guys are going to kill an animal and eat it fresh every single meal/day
that's unrealistic and not good for looksmaxxing
I’m not saying to do it, it’s just wrong to say cooked meat is more nutritious
 
Yes, excess nutrients are real
Heme-iron is extremely absorbable, a long with some other extremely absorbable nutrients. They either are stored, creating fat, or destroy the gut
Bacteria and parasites are absolutely not cope, not everything is living in symbiosis with you, and that claim is based on pretty much nothing
i mean yeah my stuff isnt backed up by anything but wtv
if you want to live with this mindset up to you
 
I’m not saying to do it, it’s just wrong to say cooked meat is more nutritious
Ok sure, fair enough
It can never be ideal because none of the supermarket meat and milk most people buy isn't fresh
Even on farms or hunting, they cannot consume the whole animal fresh in time, it needs to be kept
 
If you disregard the bacteria and parasites, its the easiest way to receive proper nutrition for development and health
just disregard the shit that makes it unhealthy, because it just is irrelevant bro!!
you can meet proper satiation for nutrients and development without this naturalistic mindset, and without overwhelming the system with excess nutrients
 

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