Info Things I use to mitigate the side effects of roids

[Mandy?]

Cardiovascular and Kidney:
-Biaxol 5mg before sleeping
-telmisartan 20mg in the morning
-Aspirin 100mg
-Coenzyme Q10

Reason:My blood pressure is hypertension stage 1 without anything,with a fast resting heart rate. Usually biaxol 5mg does the job in protecting cardiovascular health and kidney health. Usually people say “the higher levels of creatinine are the reason why kidney health gets worse” while actually usually it’s the high blood pressure that just nukes the kidney. Since I already use a good beta blocker,I do low dose telmisartan instead of the usual maintence dose. Also roids,the more anabolic and androgenic they are will increase your red blood cells like crazy,that’s why you need aspirin to prevent blood from clotting. Q10 is the best thing you can get in terms of availability but alone won’t work.

Insulin sensitivity,organ health,hormonal support etc:
-N-Aceytl L-Cysteine 1800mg
-Glycine (depends)
-telmisartan (included in cardiovascular section)
-Metformin 2000mg
-Cabergoline 0.25mg 3 times a week
-Important micronutrients and minerals (magnesium,zinc etc)

Reason:Lots of roids are hepatoxic meaning they nuke your liver mostly by the enzymes,NAC is a L-glutathione precursor,a strong antioxidant. Also glycine is also an important precursor for glutathione. Now telmisartan and Metformin is to perserve insulin sensitivity,it’s kind of embarrassing to admit but so many people of my family get type 2 diabetes and it’s mostly on my mom’s side. I use caber to reduce prolactin,to prevent heart side effects don’t try to excessively lower prolactin and you might just need p5p 200-300mg for it.

@Archelaus @BlendedBlade🧿 @Currycelloser @milkjar @dipenhydramine @foidletlexi

 

[BlendedBulge]

Add TUDCA for liver support

 

[dipenhydramine]

mirin high iq bhai

 

[milkjar]

that's cool and all but i'm just gonna trenmaxx and cruise

 

[BlendedBulge]

metformin will lower IGF-1 a lot which will interfere with recovery and muscle cell hyperplasia

 

[limo8]

great thread

 

[BlendedBulge]

that's cool and all but i'm just gonna trenmaxx and cruise

 

[Mandy?]

metformin will lower IGF-1 a lot which will interfere with recovery and muscle cell hyperplasia

Yes,but I’m on GH+Insulin so it shouldn’t be a problem at all. I’d rather have a slightly lower IGF-1 than type 2 diabetes.

 

[limo8]

you chad already getting greedy pushing adam light yk?

 

[Archelaus]

Cardiovascular and Kidney:
-Biaxol 5mg before sleeping
-telmisartan 20mg in the morning
-Aspirin 100mg
-Coenzyme Q10

Reason:My blood pressure is hypertension stage 1 without anything,with a fast resting heart rate. Usually biaxol 5mg does the job in protecting cardiovascular health and kidney health. Usually people say “the higher levels of creatinine are the reason why kidney health gets worse” while actually usually it’s the high blood pressure that just nukes the kidney. Since I already use a good beta blocker,I do low dose telmisartan instead of the usual maintence dose. Also roids,the more anabolic and androgenic they are will increase your red blood cells like crazy,that’s why you need aspirin to prevent blood from clotting. Q10 is the best thing you can get in terms of availability but alone won’t work.

Insulin sensitivity,organ health,hormonal support etc:
-N-Aceytl L-Cysteine 1800mg
-Glycine (depends)
-telmisartan (included in cardiovascular section)
-Metformin 2000mg
-Cabergoline 0.25mg 3 times a week
-Important micronutrients and minerals (magnesium,zinc etc)

Reason:Lots of roids are hepatoxic meaning they nuke your liver mostly by the enzymes,NAC is a L-glutathione precursor,a strong antioxidant. Also glycine is also an important precursor for glutathione. Now telmisartan and Metformin is to perserve insulin sensitivity,it’s kind of embarrassing to admit but so many people of my family get type 2 diabetes and it’s mostly on my mom’s side. I use caber to reduce prolactin,to prevent heart side effects don’t try to excessively lower prolactin and you might just need p5p 200-300mg for it.

@Archelaus @BlendedBlade🧿 @Currycelloser @milkjar @dipenhydramine @foidletlexi

Although I'm not on cycle i bookmarked for the future. your threads are something i look forward to

 

[Mandy?]

you chad already getting greedy pushing adam light yk?

You’re the real Chad bro

 

[alkobarti]

You’re the real Chad bro

Increasing RBC would give your skin a redder hue right (undertone wise)

 

[Mandy?]

Increasing RBC would give your skin a redder hue right (undertone wise)

Lycopene does the same job.

 

[BlendedBulge]

What about lipid profile management

 

[alkobarti]

Lycopene does the same job.

Yeah I'm just saying indirectly since you mentioned RBC in ur thread (also Equipoise)

 

[Deleted Member 76607]

 

[Mandy?]

I saw this vro,all I can think is “does vro live in the slums?”

 

[Deleted Member 76607]

I saw this vro,all I can think is “does vro live in the slums?”

He said it’s a secret place

 

[Mandy?]

What about lipid profile management

Omega 3+many of them support lipid profiles

 

[BlendedBulge]

Omega 3+many of them support lipid profiles

Statins or cardarine help a lot

 

[Mandy?]

Statins or cardarine help a lot

Cardarine to my understanding increases oxidative stress specifically with something that already increases it such as tren. My lipid profiles look good,my LDL is in safe range.

 

[BlendedBulge]

Cardarine to my understanding increases oxidative stress specifically with something that already increases it such as tren. My lipid profiles look good,my LDL is in safe range.

It increases fat oxidation causing more oxidative stress like DNP

 

[lockedinrita]

Cardiovascular and Kidney:
-Biaxol 5mg before sleeping
-telmisartan 20mg in the morning
-Aspirin 100mg
-Coenzyme Q10

Reason:My blood pressure is hypertension stage 1 without anything,with a fast resting heart rate. Usually biaxol 5mg does the job in protecting cardiovascular health and kidney health. Usually people say “the higher levels of creatinine are the reason why kidney health gets worse” while actually usually it’s the high blood pressure that just nukes the kidney. Since I already use a good beta blocker,I do low dose telmisartan instead of the usual maintence dose. Also roids,the more anabolic and androgenic they are will increase your red blood cells like crazy,that’s why you need aspirin to prevent blood from clotting. Q10 is the best thing you can get in terms of availability but alone won’t work.

Insulin sensitivity,organ health,hormonal support etc:
-N-Aceytl L-Cysteine 1800mg
-Glycine (depends)
-telmisartan (included in cardiovascular section)
-Metformin 2000mg
-Cabergoline 0.25mg 3 times a week
-Important micronutrients and minerals (magnesium,zinc etc)

Reason:Lots of roids are hepatoxic meaning they nuke your liver mostly by the enzymes,NAC is a L-glutathione precursor,a strong antioxidant. Also glycine is also an important precursor for glutathione. Now telmisartan and Metformin is to perserve insulin sensitivity,it’s kind of embarrassing to admit but so many people of my family get type 2 diabetes and it’s mostly on my mom’s side. I use caber to reduce prolactin,to prevent heart side effects don’t try to excessively lower prolactin and you might just need p5p 200-300mg for it.

@Archelaus @BlendedBlade🧿 @Currycelloser @milkjar @dipenhydramine @foidletlexi

How were you able to get Metformin without a prescription

 

[Pearex]

Biaxol 5mg before sleeping

Biaxol 5 mg is a sensible beta-blocker for controlling heart rate and blood pressure. However, its kidney-protective effect is limited it primarily protects the kidneys from blood pressure and RAAS suppression. Saying "Biaxol directly protects kidney health" is a bit of a generalization.

telmisartan 20mg in the morning

Telmisartan 20 mg correct with a low dose, you can protect both hypertension and kidneys. However, it cannot completely protect kidney function against steroid-induced nephrotoxicity on its own.

Aspirin 100mg

Aspirin 100 mg yes, it reduces the risk of blood clots, but aspirin alone may not be sufficient if the hematocrit is very high. Gastrointestinal risks (especially with steroid + aspirin combinations) should also be considered.

Coenzyme Q10

Coenzyme Q10 is beneficial as an antioxidant, but the claim that it "provides cardiovascular protection on its own" is exaggerated. Clinical evidence is mixed it is generally more significant in combination with statin use.

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The statement ‘Biaxol and Coenzyme Q10 protect the kidneys and heart’ is not absolutely true it provides partial and context-dependent protection.

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Metformin 2000mg

Metformin 2000 mg is sensible for improving insulin sensitivity, but it's more protective against genetic predisposition than steroid induced insulin resistance (IR). High doses are risky if liver and kidney function are not monitored.

NAC is a L-glutathione precursor,a strong antioxidant. Also glycine is also an important precursor for glutathione.

It's true that NAC + Glycine supports glutathione. But it's wrong to say "every steroid prevents hepatotoxicity" NAC alone does not completely prevent hepatotoxicity from high-dose AAS or oral C17-AA.

Important micronutrients and minerals (magnesium,zinc etc)

Micronutrients (Zn, Mg) are important but their effect is limited they do not completely prevent steroid side effects.

I use caber to reduce prolactin,to prevent heart side effects don’t try to excessively lower prolactin and you might just need p5p 200-300mg for it.

Cabergolin does suppress prolactin, that's true. But the part about "not lowering prolactin too much to avoid heart risk," as you wrote, is debatable low doses of cabergolin are safe for most people.

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It is incorrect and exaggerated to say that NAC and glycine "prevent all steroid hepatotoxicity." It is risky to claim that Metformin 2g is "safe and effective for everyone".

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The general logic and connections:
that "high creatinine = poor kidney health" are correct, but creatinine is only an indicator of GFR, not a sole indicator of organ damage.

“Low-dose telmisartan with a beta-blocker” sounds logical, but the risk of hypotension or bradycardia with this combination should be considered.

“Steroids drastically increase red blood cells, aspirin is essential” that's true, but the dosage and additional precautions should be evaluated according to the high hematocrit and the risk of thrombosis. A single aspirin may not be enough.