Typical gymcel trait: Big arms, small delts and neck

[Buddy Boyo]

It's typically causes by low androgen Density and thus low pren T

Big bloated bi and triceps, and small flat delts along with a Tiny neck and traps
The brutal thing is that as a Low T framecel it's almost impossible to build big delts and a big neck/traps since These muscle Groups purely rely on your natural androgen receptor amount/Density/sensitivity

Building big arms/chest is quite easy since These muslce Groups store a lot of glycogen (Glycogen is what makes you meaty and swole, it makes your muscles soft and voluminous, a high amount of glycogen storage within the muscles is caused by a naturally high Estrogen receptor amount/Density, while chads usually have high haemoglobin muscles which are naturally way more harder and defined)

But muscle Groups like the delts are hard muscles which consists mostly of haemoglobin, if you're not naturally androgenic then it will impossible for you to get cannonball shaped 3 Dimensional bulging laterally projecting delts

even on testosterone it will be hard asfuck as a naturally Low T framecel to get any dry delt mass

the only way for a Low Tcel to get somewhat solid delts is tren...

the muscle androgenity pill is also one of the most brutal pills aside from the framepill, it clearly differes whetever if you're genetically destined to be a officecuck or a athlete


Look at These god Tier Transformation, he had a shit ton of fat on his Body, but that didnt kept him back from Building a androgenic-asfuck body

His muscle insertions and shape are legit GOD TIER


Now compare him to this estrogenic nordic cuck


That guy didnt even had twice of fat than the black guy, but he still has WAY MORE Estrogen receptors and WAY LESS androgen receptors because his genetics are simply dogshit, his parents didnt had much androgenic tendencies, he surely also had low Pren T

He Looks like total trash, his delts are naturally flat shaped due to Absence of androgen receptors, his chest is asymmetric and feminine shaped, his lats are legit deformed, his general Body literally screams high estrogen

I also bet that he is totally unathletic, he was Always the one who was picked at last during schoolsports


No matter how much mass you have, a lack of androgenic receptors will make your muscles look like shit, it kills every symmetry along with making it impossible to get 3 dimensional looking muscles

In end it's just another proof that gymcelling for looksmaxxing is pure cope if you're not genetically blessed

 

[john]

Thanks for the Blackpill.

 

[Deleted member 304]

thx for the broscience bro

 

[Rkelly]

It's typically causes by low androgen Density and thus low pren T

Big bloated bi and triceps, and small flat delts along with a Tiny neck and traps
The brutal thing is that as a Low T framecel it's almost impossible to build big delts and a big neck/traps since These muscle Groups purely rely on your natural androgen receptor amount/Density/sensitivity

Building big arms/chest is quite easy since These muslce Groups store a lot of glycogen (Glycogen is what makes you meaty and swole, it makes your muscles soft and voluminous, a high amount of glycogen storage within the muscles is caused by a naturally high Estrogen receptor amount/Density, while chads usually have high haemoglobin muscles which are naturally way more harder and defined)

But muscle Groups like the delts are hard muscles which consists mostly of haemoglobin, if you're not naturally androgenic then it will impossible for you to get cannonball shaped 3 Dimensional bulging laterally projecting delts

even on testosterone it will be hard asfuck as a naturally Low T framecel to get any dry delt mass

the only way for a Low Tcel to get somewhat solid delts is tren...

the muscle androgenity pill is also one of the most brutal pills aside from the framepill, it clearly differes whetever if you're genetically destined to be a officecuck or a athlete


Look at These god Tier Transformation, he had a shit ton of fat on his Body, but that didnt kept him back from Building a androgenic-asfuck body

His muscle insertions and shape are legit GOD TIER
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Now compare him to this estrogenic nordic cuck
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That guy didnt even had twice of fat than the black guy, but he still has WAY MORE Estrogen receptors and WAY LESS androgen receptors because his genetics are simply dogshit, his parents didnt had much androgenic tendencies, he surely also had low Pren T

He Looks like total trash, his delts are naturally flat shaped due to Absence of androgen receptors, his chest is asymmetric and feminine shaped, his lats are legit deformed, his general Body literally screams high estrogen

I also bet that he is totally unathletic, he was Always the one who was picked at last during schoolsports


No matter how much mass you have, a lack of androgenic receptors will make your muscles look like shit, it kills every symmetry along with making it impossible to get 3 dimensional looking muscles

In end it's just another proof that gymcelling for looksmaxxing is pure cope if you're not genetically blessed

Good post! Lots of redpill thinkers just say "hit the gym"! But its mostly cope like you mentioned. Also for ppl with a lack of androgen receptors and/or low t frame they should look into clavicle lengthening. Although Dr eppley advises for delt implants instead.....either way after that just roiding is the only solution

 

[Deleted member 304]

i keep hear it being mentioned that there are more androgen receptors in the delts or some shit

i have not seen any proof for this, or that prenatal testosterone would influence it in any way

also, if people have more androgen receptors in the delts and shoulders but this guy had low prenatal T and so he had less that would mean he would still be able to build some muscle about to the same level he built in the chest and arms and abs

you are so low IQ it's crazy

 

[Rkelly]

i keep hear it being mentioned that there are more androgen receptors in the delts or some shit

i have not seen any proof for this, or that prenatal testosterone would influence it in any way

also, if people have more androgen receptors in the delts and shoulders but this guy had low prenatal T and so he had less that would mean he would still be able to build some muscle about to the same level he built in the chest and arms and abs

you are so low IQ it's crazy

But compared to one with high prenatal t there would be a significant difference. Also the amount they build will be relative. The pic OP shared of the Nordic dude wasn't great due to the fact that he hasn't maxxed out this genetic potential not to mention lighting, camera quality, and angle

 

[Deleted member 304]

But compared to one with high prenatal t there would be a significant difference

proof

also proof there is such thing as "high prenatal T"

 

[Rkelly]

proof

also proof there is such thing as "high prenatal T"

Look it up on your own time
I'm not your slave dog @Berzerk on the other hand will be more than happy

 

[Deleted member 304]

Look it up on your own time
I'm not your slave dog @Berzerk on the other hand will be more than happy

ill save you the time, theres none

its all pseudoscience

 

[Buddy Boyo]

ill save you the time, theres none

its all pseudoscience

They are both able to gain a big amount of muscles

But the nordic guys delts will NEVER look as symmetrically, rounded and protruding and 3 dimensional as the black guys ones

Your shoulders are the muscles where most of your androgen receptors are sitting

If you have a General low amount of androgen receptors, then you will automatically have a lesser amount within the delts

Prenatal Testosterone IS LIFE

 

[Deleted member 304]

If you have a General low amount of androgen receptors, then you will automatically have a lesser amount within the delts

Prenatal Testosterone IS LIFE

0 proof it's even possible to have less androgen receptors, knowing how that would affect muscle gain and if that would even have anything to do with prenatal testosterone

you also dont know if theres even such thing as a high or low prenatal T, all your little graph is showing me is face dimorphism

you are so f*****g stupid it's amazing

 

[Buddy Boyo]

0 proof it's even possible to have less androgen receptors, knowing how that would affect muscle gain and if that would even have anything to do with prenatal testosterone

you also dont know if theres even such thing as a high or low prenatal T, all your little graph is showing me is face dimorphism

you are so f*****g stupid it's amazing

That graph Shows the face Variation between Kids with high and low Digit Ratio thus high and low prenatal T

 

[Buddy Boyo]

0 proof it's even possible to have less androgen receptors, knowing how that would affect muscle gain and if that would even have anything to do with prenatal testosterone

you also dont know if theres even such thing as a high or low prenatal T, all your little graph is showing me is face dimorphism

you are so f*****g stupid it's amazing

Every guy has more or less androgen receptors, just like every guy has more and less testosterone lol

 

[Deleted member 304]

That graph Shows the face Variation between Kids with high and low Digit Ratio thus high and low prenatal T

Every guy has more or less androgen receptors, just like every guy has more and less testosterone lol

as if id believe some low T baby JFL

you get your info from lookism shitposts, go drink some b***h's piss fagget

 

[Alban]

They are both able to gain a big amount of muscles

But the nordic guys delts will NEVER look as symmetrically, rounded and protruding and 3 dimensional as the black guys ones

Your shoulders are the muscles where most of your androgen receptors are sitting

If you have a General low amount of androgen receptors, then you will automatically have a lesser amount within the delts

Prenatal Testosterone IS LIFE

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tbh androgenic density only dictates how much muscle you'll start with and how much/fast you'll gain muscle. muscle insertions and muscle bellies are a different ball game. you might be a high t beast but if your muscle insertions/bellies are trash you will look like shit regardless of how rounded your shoulders are or big your traps are. btw the black guy you posted is juicy, no f*****g shit his shoulders are bowling balls.

 

[Rkelly]

tbh androgenic density only dictates how much muscle you'll start with and how much/fast you'll gain muscle. muscle insertions and muscle bellies are a different ball game. you might be a high t beast but if your muscle insertions/bellies are trash you will look like shit regardless of how rounded your shoulders are or big your traps are. btw the black guy you posted is juicy, no f*****g shit his shoulders are bowling balls.

True

 

[Alban]

i keep hear it being mentioned that there are more androgen receptors in the delts or some shit

i have not seen any proof for this, or that prenatal testosterone would influence it in any way

also, if people have more androgen receptors in the delts and shoulders but this guy had low prenatal T and so he had less that would mean he would still be able to build some muscle about to the same level he built in the chest and arms and abs

you are so low IQ it's crazy

tbh i'm not informed in terms of studies about this but it's pretty common knowledge in bb that super rounded 3d shoulders and mountain traps are 90% a red flag for juicing. that's all i know though

 

[Deleted member 304]

tbh i'm not informed in terms of studies about this but it's pretty common knowledge in bb that super rounded 3d shoulders and mountain traps are 90% a red flag for juicing. that's all i know though

that might only answer 1 of my questions

whatever

 

[Potatoshoe12]

Second guy looks good dafuk, he prolly didnt train traps and NECk bcoz its still a New thing for average gymcel. Only PPL who do box train them on Day to Day basis
But yea there is only si far gym can get you to, its mostly genetic

 

[Buddy Boyo]

tbh androgenic density only dictates how much muscle you'll start with and how much/fast you'll gain muscle. muscle insertions and muscle bellies are a different ball game. you might be a high t beast but if your muscle insertions/bellies are trash you will look like shit regardless of how rounded your shoulders are or big your traps are. btw the black guy you posted is juicy, no f*****g shit his shoulders are bowling balls.

Im not only Talking About androgen Density but also the General amount of the androgen receptors and their sensitivity

more androgen receptors means more symmetrical and more protruding shaped muscles, People with asymmetric muscles usually look low T, they often have a poor shoulder to waist ratio

 

[Buddy Boyo]

btw that second guy is also juiced up, he even admitted it on his blog

 

[Alban]

btw that second guy is also juiced up, he even admitted it on his blog

what a retarded move, giving up your health to look above average

 

[Buddy Boyo]

what a retarded move, giving up your health to look above average

Well most guys who are ripped are doing Juice, 95% at least