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What are the surgery I need

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Supra implants and a rhino
Double jaw not NEEDED but its preferred (applies to everyone though)
i suggested alar cuz his nose shape is not horrible it’s just the nostrils but either or tbh
 
Actually lefort 1 by itself > bimax he doesnt need more mandibular length
 
Tbh idk what rhe nuances are
Cant rhino change ur alar based too
yeah alar is just way cheaper and less invasive

i’m getting alar instead of rhino cuz i dont want my nose to look gay jfl
 
i just think people quickly resort to rhino when it’s not that bad, alar is underrated surgery imo
If he has money he should js get a rhino tbh his nose shape isnt super horribke but its still bad
 
If he has money he should js get a rhino tbh his nose shape isnt super horribke but its still bad
in the mirror pic it doesn’t look as bad

i think lens distortion is cooking him but would need to take actual measurements with undistorted picture to determine best roi
 
in the mirror pic it doesn’t look as bad

i think lens distortion is cooking him but would need to take actual measurements with undistorted picture to determine best roi
Tbh it doesnt matter the biggest roi surgeries are the ones where the flaws are easily identified
Analyzation is for like minmaxxers like trying to fix every single little flaw like i am
 
Tbh it doesnt matter the biggest roi surgeries are the ones where the flaws are easily identified
Analyzation is for like minmaxxers like trying to fix every single little flaw like i am
lowk truth nuke im approaching it like i would instead of how he would
 
lowk truth nuke im approaching it like i would instead of how he would
The reason i started analyzing was bc i thought i was really ugly and needed to maximize everything
Now dudes tellinf me i can be htn with purely fat loss idek if theres a point in analysis anymore unless i want to be cl
 
The reason i started analyzing was bc i thought i was really ugly and needed to maximize everything
Now dudes tellinf me i can be htn with purely fat loss idek if theres a point in analysis anymore unless i want to be cl
if u take advantage of puberty well you’re gonna be fine if you still want to min max you’ll be even better

it depends on how autistic you are abt it, i lowk do not need to get surgery to live a great life but atp its a hobby to see how good looking i get yfm
 
if u take advantage of puberty well you’re gonna be fine if you still want to min max you’ll be even better

it depends on how autistic you are abt it, i lowk do not need to get surgery to live a great life but atp its a hobby to see how good looking i get yfm
Trvth nuke
I mean if i did do enhanced puberty i need to calculate if i would be hcl+ otherwise idrc to be more than lcl
 
I could prob minmax somewhere around mhtn-lcl w/o major surgery
 
Trvth nuke
I mean if i did do enhanced puberty i need to calculate if i would be hcl+ otherwise idrc to be more than lcl
i was talking abt this yesterday with someone

lcl is all you need to be considered universally objectively attravtive

there’s so much subjectivity and nichemaxxing you can do from mtn-htn
 
Prob js fillers, lash extensions, thicker brows, botox, fat dissolver/corticosteroid usage for nose, contacts, maybe some other niche methods
Not niche i mean js not like surface level
 
Actually lefort 1 by itself > bimax he doesnt need more mandibular length
Wouldn't a LeFort I give him maxillary prognathism?

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Take a look at the n***a on the left, it would make him look even more like a monkey than he already does. Or am I looking at it wrong?

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He clearly lacks anterior facial depth and his upper maxilla is extremely recessed. I think he would benefit from some type of midface implants like saddled infras and maybe custom midface implants. His nose is also sunken, which I assume is due to the lack of an anterior nasal spine.

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The one he has is probably the short and rounded version. He would significantly benefit from some sort of implant to give it more projection.

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Maybe something like this.

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The before and afters are insane. I think this would be a much better choice than a straight LeFort I, which would give him maxillary prognathism lol.

His chin is clearly recessed, and that could easily be fixed with a genioplasty.
For the upper maxilla, we could advance it via saddled infras and maybe custom midface implants, or even go for a full blown LeFort II.



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I think this would be perfect to advance the whole upper maxilla and midface, including the orbits.
That would fix his negative orbital vector. It's also done completely intraorally, so there are no external scars unlike a regular LeFort II.

He also needs forehead reduction, his forehead is huge as fuck.

@unknown mtn, Thoughts?
 
i’m considering diy pdo threads rn ngl
Maybe
Wouldn't a LeFort I give him maxillary prognathism?

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Take a look at the n***a on the left, it would make him look even more like a monkey than he already does. Or am I looking at it wrong?

View attachment 332381

He clearly lacks anterior facial depth and his upper maxilla is extremely recessed. I think he would benefit from some type of midface implants like saddled infras and maybe custom midface implants. His nose is also sunken, which I assume is due to the lack of an anterior nasal spine.

View attachment 332384

The one he has is probably the short and rounded version. He would significantly benefit from some sort of implant to give it more projection.

View attachment 332385
Maybe something like this.

View attachment 332386

The before and afters are insane. I think this would be a much better choice than a straight LeFort I, which would give him maxillary prognathism lol.

His chin is clearly recessed, and that could easily be fixed with a genioplasty.
For the upper maxilla, we could advance it via saddled infras and maybe custom midface implants, or even go for a full blown LeFort II.



View attachment 332387

I think this would be perfect to advance the whole upper maxilla and midface, including the orbits.
That would fix his negative orbital vector. It's also done completely intraorally, so there are no external scars unlike a regular LeFort II.

He also needs forehead reduction, his forehead is huge as fuck.

@unknown mtn, Thoughts?
High iq bhai
I said lefort 1 bc his upper lip less projected than his under lip mb bhai
 
Wouldn't a LeFort I give him maxillary prognathism?

View attachment 332382

Take a look at the n***a on the left, it would make him look even more like a monkey than he already does. Or am I looking at it wrong?

View attachment 332381

He clearly lacks anterior facial depth and his upper maxilla is extremely recessed. I think he would benefit from some type of midface implants like saddled infras and maybe custom midface implants. His nose is also sunken, which I assume is due to the lack of an anterior nasal spine.

View attachment 332384

The one he has is probably the short and rounded version. He would significantly benefit from some sort of implant to give it more projection.

View attachment 332385
Maybe something like this.

View attachment 332386

The before and afters are insane. I think this would be a much better choice than a straight LeFort I, which would give him maxillary prognathism lol.

His chin is clearly recessed, and that could easily be fixed with a genioplasty.
For the upper maxilla, we could advance it via saddled infras and maybe custom midface implants, or even go for a full blown LeFort II.



View attachment 332387

I think this would be perfect to advance the whole upper maxilla and midface, including the orbits.
That would fix his negative orbital vector. It's also done completely intraorally, so there are no external scars unlike a regular LeFort II.

He also needs forehead reduction, his forehead is huge as fuck.

@unknown mtn, Thoughts?
i agree the unfortunate thing is it’s hard to know what would look better till after it’s done

custom implants i haven’t done too much research on, i do like your plan of attack a lot better then mine and genios tho

i needa stop chatting out my ass and actually look closer, but no one here actually hardmaxxes so 😭🤷‍♂️

W plan i agree
 
Maybe
High iq bhai
I said lefort 1 bc his upper lip less projected than his under lip mb bhai
i need those pdo threads bro it’s lowk cheap and if i don’t fuck jt up could help a lot
 

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