What is the PSL scale?

[acketar]

Firstly, I would just like to say that I have been using the PSL scale to rate people for a very long time. I obviously understand the basics, Like canthal tilt, gonial angle, FWHR ratio, dimorphism, bone density, masseter development, zygomatic shape and set, under and over orbital development, and so forth. I have more than enough knowledge on the scale, but it seems like people in this day and age see it as something else. Now more people are talking about blatant and definition less features and assets on peoples faces, and rating them based off of that. For example, someone might just call your forehead big and rate you a LTN, even though it correlates to the FWHR and you have great bone density. It's starting to seem like people are using the PSL scale wrongly, or have I been using it wrong this whole life.

TLDR: I have been rating people based off of ratios and bones, and I recently have noticed people rating others based off of minor failios despite the lack of disrupted rhythm in ones face.

And it isn't like the PSL scale is out there on the internet, sites like incel.wiki state that the PSL scale is based off of the bell curve, and while that is true and it covers symmetry which is a huge part of PSL, it doesn't evaluate on what exactly makes or breaks a face. Sites like mewing.hub are just straight up lies, saying stuff like "Psl is typically rated 1-10"

What is a High Tier Normie in Looksmaxxing? PSL Scale Explained

Discover what defines a high tier normie in looksmaxxing. Learn about PSL scale ratings, facial features, and societal perceptions of these above-average individuals.

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https://incels.wiki/w/PSL_rating

Overall, I think that the PSL scale is turning into the decile scale, People just mindlessly label others whatever they feel like without truly pointing out the base features that make them rate that way, (even I am guilty on this but thats out of laziness) and they're being extremely subjective with their ratings. I would just like to know if I have been wrong to only judge peoples bones when assigning a PSL, and if I should either focus more on, or focus equally on peoples soft features like hair skin and coloring, and If I have been wrong to judge bones, I would like to know what key features I should be looking for instead.

 

[Gigachad]

bone density is how much minerals are internally inside of bones. Has absolutely nothing to do with facial aesthetics

 

[acketar]

bone density is how much minerals are internally inside of bones. Has absolutely nothing to do with facial aesthetics

People in this community dont use its actual def, In this case its used to describe how large your bones are.

 

[Gigachad]

"lack of disrupted rhythm" is subjective and arbitrary

 

[Gigachad]

People in this community dont use its actual def, In this case its used to describe how large your bones are.

Then say bone size or bone mass. Saying bone density is insanely retarded no offense

 

[acketar]

"lack of disrupted rhythm" is subjective and arbitrary

It isnt subjective at all, what I mean by that is how your noticeably facial features play along with your facial shape and structure

 

[acketar]

Then say bone size or bone mass. Saying bone density is insanely retarded no offense

offense taken thanks for nitpicking my post without answering my question

 

[Gigachad]

It isnt subjective at all, what I mean by that is how your noticeably facial features play along with your facial shape and structure

It is. You were talking about how someone might have minor failos that don't disrupt rhythm in their face. And this is completely subjective. To some people, those people with those slight failos might look ugly. And to others their failos might not be noticable

 

[Gigachad]

It is. You were talking about how someone might have minor failos that don't disrupt rhythm in their face. And this is completely subjective. To some people, those people with those slight failos might look ugly. And to others their failos might not be noticable

A face with no failos, perfect ratios and bone structure will always be ideal

 

[acketar]

It is. You were talking about how someone might have minor failos that don't disrupt rhythm in their face. And this is completely subjective. To some people, those people with those slight failos might look ugly. And to others their failos might not be noticable

Failios like canthal tilt, You could have a negative tilt that plays along with the rest of your features really well, not everyone looks stunning with alien eyes

 

[Gigachad]

Also to answer your question the PSL scale is simply just a scale from 1 to 8. the Initials mean puahate sluthate lookism. 3 incel sites that used to exist back in 2014 or something. And that's all it is

 

[Gigachad]

Failios like canthal tilt, You could have a negative tilt that plays along with the rest of your features really well, not everyone looks stunning with alien eyes

Being good looking doesn't mean perfect. That guy would still look better with ideal canthal tilt. Positive canthal tilt isn't alien eyes

 

[acketar]

A face with no failos, perfect ratios and bone structure will always be ideal

But it isnt ideal in the dating market, I've seen people with higher psl get passed up multiple times over. Thats where subjection comes into play but its widespread, so many NTS talk about not wanting someone whos "too perfect"

 

[acketar]

Being good looking doesn't mean perfect. That guy would still look better with ideal canthal tilt. Positive canthal tilt isn't alien eyes

Well.. I dont exactly know about that, I see alot of people with great features that just look terrible on their face.

 

[acketar]

Also to answer your question the PSL scale is simply just a scale from 1 to 8. the Initials mean puahate sluthate lookism. 3 incel sites that used to exist back in 2014 or something. And that's all it is

Yeah i know the acronym Im just more confused about the modern day criteria

 

[Gigachad]

But it isnt ideal in the dating market, I've seen people with higher psl get passed up multiple times over. Thats where subjection comes into play but its widespread, so many NTS talk about not wanting someone whos "too perfect"

You could just be rating them inaccurately, maybe your assessment of who's higher psl is actually lower. This is an example of a face that would be near ideal. (I think the jaw and cheekbones could be more robust though, they look soft to me). This doesn't look uncanny at all

 

[Gigachad]

Well.. I dont exactly know about that, I see alot of people with great features that just look terrible on their face.

show one

 

[acketar]

You could just be rating them inaccurately, maybe your assessment of who's higher psl is actually lower. This is an example of a face that would be near ideal. (I think the jaw and cheekbones could be more robust though, they look soft to me). This doesn't look uncanny at all

Ironically I went to school with one guy who has a similar face to this, we weren't buddies but he talked about how he was always struggling to find "love" and whatnot. I asked him if he meant actual love, as I assumed he had amazing SMV, but it turns out he just mean attention from girls in general

 

[Gigachad]

 

[Gigachad]

Ironically I went to school with one guy who has a similar face to this, we weren't buddies but he talked about how he was always struggling to find "love" and whatnot. I asked him if he meant actual love, as I assumed he had amazing SMV, but it turns out he just mean attention from girls in general

ive never seen anyone in person with a similar face to that

 

[acketar]

show one

heres a woman with a good nose and great eyes, her lips arent the best but its something else making her unattractive

 

[Gigachad]

heres a woman with a good nose and great eyes, her lips arent the best but its something else making her unattractive
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? She's just fat as fuck

 

[acketar]

? She's just fat as fuck

that was funny but no, I would aruge and say she has a relatively normal bf, but the lack of bone mass in her face prevents her from being attractive. Sometimes fat faced people have skinny bodys because their face is boneless

 

[Gigachad]

that was funny but no, I would aruge and say she has a relatively normal bf, but the lack of bone mass in her face prevents her from being attractive. Sometimes fat faced people have skinny bodys because their face is boneless

it doesn't matter either way. But I disagree. That literally looks like some obese old woman with an underbite, ofc she's ugly. It's not a mystery either way

 

[Gigachad]

I believe every face has an objective explanation to it's rating. I think looks are 90% objective or more. There's no such thing as having perfect features and being average, let alone ugly

 

[acketar]

it doesn't matter either way. But I disagree. That literally looks like some obese old woman with an underbite, ofc she's ugly. It's not a mystery either way

The point is, she has PCT, She has a nice nose, she has a good chin to philtrum ratio, upon a double take she has OKAY lips, and her orbitals have no signs of recession. But something about her just isnt attractive.

 

[acketar]

I believe every face has an objective explanation to it's rating. I think looks are 90% objective or more. There's no such thing as having perfect features and being average, let alone ugly

I didnt say there is a such thing as that. I'm gonna shift my point mainly to, beauty IS more subjective than people give it credit for, as supported by the previous example I gave.

 

[Gigachad]

The point is, she has PCT, She has a nice nose, she has a good chin to philtrum ratio, upon a double take she has OKAY lips, and her orbitals have no signs of recession. But something about her just isnt attractive.

Wdym "something about her" bruh.. literally show that to anyone and they would say it looks like a fat girl. It's not "Something about her" it's blatantly obvious and visual

 

[Gigachad]

Also her ESR is terrible

 

[acketar]

Wdym "something about her" bruh.. literally show that to anyone and they would say it looks like a fat girl. It's not "Something about her" it's blatantly obvious and visual

People wouldnt consider her fat I think I can assure you that

 

[Gigachad]

It looks good when i crop out just this part of her face. This looks good

 

[acketar]

Also her ESR is terrible

You kind of just supported part of my point. Individual features are helpless without actual ratios

 

[acketar]

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It looks good when i crop out just this part of her face. This looks good

I'm sorry but you are literally just arguing WITH me now like on my side

 

[Gigachad]

You kind of just supported part of my point. Individual features are helpless without actual ratios

I wasn't talking about solely individual features. I'm talking about objective looks criteria as a whole. I don't think looks are subjective, it's 90% objective minimum

 

[Gigachad]

I'm sorry but you are literally just arguing WITH me now like on my side

No you were acting like it's some mysterious reason why she looks bad when it's her esr and chubby face

 

[acketar]

No you were acting like it's some mysterious reason why she looks bad when it's her esr and chubby face

I wasnt trying to be mysterious I was more so trying to be sarcastic to bait you into assigning her genuine issues, like her esr.

 

[acketar]

I wasn't talking about solely individual features. I'm talking about objective looks criteria as a whole. I don't think looks are subjective, it's 90% objective minimum

Well in that cropped photo you can still tell her ES ratio is shit so now i dont exactly know what is objectively beatuiful about her in that besides her individual features

 

[Gigachad]

Well in that cropped photo you can still tell her ES ratio is shit so now i dont exactly know what is objectively beatuiful about her in that besides her individual features

probably because she still has low intercanthal distance in that cropped image

 

[acketar]

probably because she still has low intercanthal distance in that cropped image

Does she actually? Am I confused? what is intercanthal distance I might be thinking of the wrong thing

 

[Gigachad]

Does she actually? Am I confused? what is intercanthal distance I might be thinking of the wrong thing

 

[acketar]

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I think the one to the far left is off but yeah youre right, I didnt notice until It was mapped out.