Title, I don't know what to do!!!! So I was quite sure about hopping on 16, but after more research, I'm no longer sure.
I spent 6 hours browsing through various threads on org today and it just made me be unsure of my plans and overthink, even these retards don't advice anyone to hop on young age.
My genetics fucked me up, my early development too. Now I am in a more later stage of puberty with a fucking manlet 5'7 height.
My face isn't bad, just to specify. It looks average. Normie sees it and maybe then even can think that it's okay, maybe even pretty. But it's not enough for me.
I don't want to be just average. Maybe early internet exposure and looking at chad and good looking men photos have destroyed my perceptions of looks? Perhaps it would be easier to not be blackpilled and just live my life normally, like my friends do. They don't worry about thier looks, even tho they're objectively worse looking than me. They don't care, they just have fun at a young age.
While they waste thier precious puberty, I have come with a plan that will make me ascend. I won't die as an ugly man. I don't even care about women or sex, I just want to look good, for myself. Call it body dysmorphia, whatever, I don't care. I won't die average.
This is what I specifically plan to do.
1. Testosteronemaxx
High test in puberty is a must if I want to be a chad at a young age. I could always blast tren at 18 like Ramirez did, but tren is a little too extreme for me, high-risk strong steroids? I don't like it.
Anyway, I'm planning to buy 25g of test e, aromatasin and Nolvadex, and do 500mg/week.
In total it would cost me about $160, which is a lot for me, since my parents won't just not notice $160 missing from my wallet. They actually care about me and check it often.
So for now, idk how I will get it, but I will get that money. I need money!!!
If it won't happen... Idk. I will think of something different.
Why do I care so much about testosterone?
"The effect of low dose testosterone on the craniofacial development in children with delayed puberty.
Craniofacial growth was investigated in boys treated with low-dose testosterone for delayed puberty (> 14 years old; testicular volume < 4 ml; n = 7) and compared with controls (12-14 years; n = 37). Cephalometric radiographs, statural height and pubertal stage were recorded at the start of the study and after 1 year. Craniofacial growth was assessed by nine linear measurements. At the beginning of the study, statural height, mandibular ramus length, upper anterior face height, and total cranial base length were significantly shorter in the delayed puberty boys than in the controls. After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched controls (n = 7). The craniofacial measurements were similar in the treated boys as compared with the controls. These results show that statural height and craniofacial dimensions are low in boys with delayed puberty. Low doses of testosterone accelerate statural and craniofacial growth, particularly in the delayed components, thus leading towards a normalization of facial dimensions."
Imagine what gains I'll get at 500mg/week.
I'm not sure if I will proceed with it at such a young age tho, that's why i'm making this thread! I don't want to be infertile for life or shrink my balls and pp. While pct should take care of it, I need more research...
2. Creatine and L carnitine
Creatine just purely for that DHTmaxxing (I mean, a little boost is always a boost) and L carnitine for 15% boost of androgen receptors. I can buy this now and I will, because it's safe.
3. After and before test cycle, aromatase inhibitor.
Self-explanatory. Want to keep my growth plates open as long as possibile. I want to be atleast 6'0. Just 10 cm more. It is possibile.
4. Debloat (Mounjaro) after 18 and get to low % bodyfat.
Ideally 8-10%. Then I will probably get to see my true potential.
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I WILL PROCEED WITH SURGERIES.
My eyes are fine, and I think at the end of my development they will be even better. Now I have very very small uue and low set, nice looking eyebrows.
What I don't like about myself, mostly, is my chin projection. See, I have a nose very similiar to Gandy, but my chin looks absolutely chopped. That's why my side profile looks very very bad, and front looks good. If my chin won't ascend from hormones, I will ascend it with implants. I don't think nose surgery (rhinoplasty) would work here, when I think it's just a chin problem.
Honestly I think I'm overthinking this. My puberty would probably just do most of shit itself and I would look good.
Anyway, if anybody knows anything about hormones and steroids usage, you can help me with your knowledge. Or PayPal me. I need money for steroids. Atleast I'm honest. I almost forgot what I wanted ask.
What's the best age to hop on roids, considering my situation? Puberty is slowly coming to an end, I shouldn't do much damage to my body (I specifically worry about my dick and balls. The prospect that they will definitely not work and shrink on cycle, and that there's always a low 10% chance they won't go back to how they were, scares me.)
Fucking schizorant.
I spent 6 hours browsing through various threads on org today and it just made me be unsure of my plans and overthink, even these retards don't advice anyone to hop on young age.
My genetics fucked me up, my early development too. Now I am in a more later stage of puberty with a fucking manlet 5'7 height.
My face isn't bad, just to specify. It looks average. Normie sees it and maybe then even can think that it's okay, maybe even pretty. But it's not enough for me.
I don't want to be just average. Maybe early internet exposure and looking at chad and good looking men photos have destroyed my perceptions of looks? Perhaps it would be easier to not be blackpilled and just live my life normally, like my friends do. They don't worry about thier looks, even tho they're objectively worse looking than me. They don't care, they just have fun at a young age.
While they waste thier precious puberty, I have come with a plan that will make me ascend. I won't die as an ugly man. I don't even care about women or sex, I just want to look good, for myself. Call it body dysmorphia, whatever, I don't care. I won't die average.
This is what I specifically plan to do.
1. Testosteronemaxx
High test in puberty is a must if I want to be a chad at a young age. I could always blast tren at 18 like Ramirez did, but tren is a little too extreme for me, high-risk strong steroids? I don't like it.
Anyway, I'm planning to buy 25g of test e, aromatasin and Nolvadex, and do 500mg/week.
In total it would cost me about $160, which is a lot for me, since my parents won't just not notice $160 missing from my wallet. They actually care about me and check it often.
So for now, idk how I will get it, but I will get that money. I need money!!!
If it won't happen... Idk. I will think of something different.
Why do I care so much about testosterone?
"The effect of low dose testosterone on the craniofacial development in children with delayed puberty.
Craniofacial growth was investigated in boys treated with low-dose testosterone for delayed puberty (> 14 years old; testicular volume < 4 ml; n = 7) and compared with controls (12-14 years; n = 37). Cephalometric radiographs, statural height and pubertal stage were recorded at the start of the study and after 1 year. Craniofacial growth was assessed by nine linear measurements. At the beginning of the study, statural height, mandibular ramus length, upper anterior face height, and total cranial base length were significantly shorter in the delayed puberty boys than in the controls. After 1 year, the growth rate of the statural height, total mandibular length, ramus length, and upper and total anterior face height was significantly higher in the treated boys than in the untreated height-matched controls (n = 7). The craniofacial measurements were similar in the treated boys as compared with the controls. These results show that statural height and craniofacial dimensions are low in boys with delayed puberty. Low doses of testosterone accelerate statural and craniofacial growth, particularly in the delayed components, thus leading towards a normalization of facial dimensions."
Imagine what gains I'll get at 500mg/week.
I'm not sure if I will proceed with it at such a young age tho, that's why i'm making this thread! I don't want to be infertile for life or shrink my balls and pp. While pct should take care of it, I need more research...
2. Creatine and L carnitine
Creatine just purely for that DHTmaxxing (I mean, a little boost is always a boost) and L carnitine for 15% boost of androgen receptors. I can buy this now and I will, because it's safe.
3. After and before test cycle, aromatase inhibitor.
Self-explanatory. Want to keep my growth plates open as long as possibile. I want to be atleast 6'0. Just 10 cm more. It is possibile.
4. Debloat (Mounjaro) after 18 and get to low % bodyfat.
Ideally 8-10%. Then I will probably get to see my true potential.
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I WILL PROCEED WITH SURGERIES.
My eyes are fine, and I think at the end of my development they will be even better. Now I have very very small uue and low set, nice looking eyebrows.
What I don't like about myself, mostly, is my chin projection. See, I have a nose very similiar to Gandy, but my chin looks absolutely chopped. That's why my side profile looks very very bad, and front looks good. If my chin won't ascend from hormones, I will ascend it with implants. I don't think nose surgery (rhinoplasty) would work here, when I think it's just a chin problem.
Honestly I think I'm overthinking this. My puberty would probably just do most of shit itself and I would look good.
Anyway, if anybody knows anything about hormones and steroids usage, you can help me with your knowledge. Or PayPal me. I need money for steroids. Atleast I'm honest. I almost forgot what I wanted ask.
What's the best age to hop on roids, considering my situation? Puberty is slowly coming to an end, I shouldn't do much damage to my body (I specifically worry about my dick and balls. The prospect that they will definitely not work and shrink on cycle, and that there's always a low 10% chance they won't go back to how they were, scares me.)
Fucking schizorant.
