Discussion Why do women say the "objectification" is bad?

[Superbia]

You see this kind of complaint everywhere. Any time a guy talks about a woman's physical attractiveness, or more commonly about her sex appeal, it's labeled as "objectifying" and judged as bad.

But what's so bad about objectification? You're objectifying somebody to the extent that your intentions are directed towards their body. Because the body is the object. But why is that bad, again? Our intentions are directed towards people's bodies all the time - any time you use physical help from someone, whether in paying for a service or receiving a favor, you're using their body. Their body is reduced to a machine to do some physical task for you. You're not denying their humanity in any way by doing this - to the extent that you're not restricting their rights or abusing them in any way, and they consent to whatever they're doing for you, you're acknowledging their humanity.

This applies to sexual attraction. A guy desiring a woman's body, with no mention of her mind or personality, is not necessarily bad. What's the offence here? Commenting on someone's sex appeal doesn't imply "this woman is a body with no mind, ah if i could get ahold of her i would treat her like a sex doll." any more than thinking about hiring a plumber implies you want to use their body as a plumbing machine.

Same thing with the term "fetishizing". A fetish is a strong sexual attraction towards body parts, situations, activities or objects. Presumably not sexual characteristics. So any time you have a particular attraction to a feature of someone's body, clothing, personality, etc. you're fetishizing them. So i guess if fetishizing is bad, then you're only allowed to be attracted to people for their sexual characteristics? LMAO

 

[Sniper]

People like to complain and be victimized
both genders are guilty of this

 

[Deleted Member 76607]

women like to complain and be victimized

 

[Deleted Member 55049]

DNR bud

 

[Newday]

soooo many words holy shit

 

[GayGymMaxx]

You see this kind of complaint everywhere. Any time a guy talks about a woman's physical attractiveness, or more commonly about her sex appeal, it's labeled as "objectifying" and judged as bad.

But what's so bad about objectification? You're objectifying somebody to the extent that your intentions are directed towards their body. Because the body is the object. But why is that bad, again? Our intentions are directed towards people's bodies all the time - any time you use physical help from someone, whether in paying for a service or receiving a favor, you're using their body. Their body is reduced to a machine to do some physical task for you. You're not denying their humanity in any way by doing this - to the extent that you're not restricting their rights or abusing them in any way, and they consent to whatever they're doing for you, you're acknowledging their humanity.

This applies to sexual attraction. A guy desiring a woman's body, with no mention of her mind or personality, is not necessarily bad. What's the offence here? Commenting on someone's sex appeal doesn't imply "this woman is a body with no mind, ah if i could get ahold of her i would treat her like a sex doll." any more than thinking about hiring a plumber implies you want to use their body as a plumbing machine.

Same thing with the term "fetishizing". A fetish is a strong sexual attraction towards body parts, situations, activities or objects. Presumably not sexual characteristics. So any time you have a particular attraction to a feature of someone's body, clothing, personality, etc. you're fetishizing them. So i guess if fetishizing is bad, then you're only allowed to be attracted to people for their sexual characteristics? LMAO

It's creepy if the objectifier is subhuman

Flattering if it's chad

Water

 

[我愛羅]

I didn’t read all this, but it’s probably because it makes them feel like an object and not like a person…

 

[Penalizer69]

The body isn't an object it'd part of someone. Wanting to have sex with someone and/or finding them sexually attractive isn't negative but if you use someone for that against their knowledge or constent then yeah it's bad

 

[chillgirl]

It's creepy if the objectifier is subhuman

Flattering if it's chad

Water

sad truth

 

[Superbia]

I didn’t read all this, but it’s probably because it makes them feel like an object and not like a person…

but their body is an object

talking about an object as if its an object isn't anything out of the ordinary

 

[Toggle]

I can't blame myself when a Stacy in bikini walks Infront of me yk

 

[我愛羅]

but their body is an object

talking about an object as if its an object isn't anything out of the ordinary

so would her face be an object too?

 

[GayGymMaxx]

but their body is an object

talking about an object as if its an object isn't anything out of the ordinary

True body is like an object and personality is like a hat

The hat is irrelevant unless it's like a Sombrero or super weird

(Blackpill )

 

[chillgirl]

I feel bad when I’m being objectified because I’m insecure btw, if not I’d be flattered

 

[Superbia]

The body isn't an object it'd part of someone.

What is it if not an object? What?

Wanting to have sex with someone and/or finding them sexually attractive isn't negative but if you use someone for that against their knowledge or constent then yeah it's bad

That's just r**e, not whatever "objectification" is used to denote 99% of the time.

 

[Superbia]

so would her face be an object too?

Yeah

 

[Penalizer69]

What is it if not an object? What?

Part of someone that's like saying ur just a brain nothing else so therefore anything you do with ur body doesn't matter

That's just r**e, not whatever "objectification" is used to denote 99% of the time

Nah I'm talking about catcalling and shit too

 

[holytruecoper]

That's just r**e, not whatever "objectification" is used to denote 99% of the time.

thats not r**e n***a. r**e is when you fuck someone against they will and they tryna defend themselves

 

[fashist]

I feel bad when I’m being objectified because I’m insecure btw, if not I’d be flattered

sameee
‘ur body is so nice’
then i rant abt how it’s not and they run tf away from me

 

[GayGymMaxx]

I feel bad when I’m being objectified because I’m insecure btw, if not I’d be flattered

Shouldn't it make you feel good then as it's a suprise

Let's give it a try, send your pics and I'll objectify you rq

 

[Toggle]

A woman shouldn't wear clothes that leaves ass and boobs dents if she doesn't want to be objectified

 

[Deleted Member 87568]

It's creepy if the objectifier is subhuman

Flattering if it's chad

Water

This.

 

[chillgirl]

Shouldn't it make you feel good then as it's a suprise

Let's give it a try, send your pics and I'll objectify you rq

it doesn’t cause I know I’m being objectified just for being a woman

 

[GayGymMaxx]

This.

That you in pfp? Mogger muscle structure in those abs

 

[Deleted Member 87568]

That you in pfp? Mogger muscle structure in those abs

Yessir

Only have this bc of the physique thread. I’ll go back to Code Geass in a few minutes

 

[Superbia]

Part of someone that's like saying ur just a brain nothing else so therefore anything you do with ur body doesn't matter

Even if you choose include people's bodies into what you define as their personhood, i still fail to see how a part of someone can't be an object.

Nah I'm talking about catcalling and shit too

This is just transgressing social norms and personal boundaries, not really about objectification itself.

 

[fashist]

That you in pfp? Mogger muscle structure in those abs

bbc genetics always got the best abs

 

[GayGymMaxx]

it doesn’t cause I know I’m being objectified just for being a woman

I'll rate you and tell you if this is true

I am the best male gaze accessor
Im looksmaxxing @galaxygirl to be my future asian side piece let em know

 

[GayGymMaxx]

Yessir

Only have this bc of the physique thread. I’ll go back to Code Geass in a few minutes

Good shit bro

I gotta get gymcelling again

 

[Superbia]

thats not r**e n***a. r**e is when you fuck someone against they will and they tryna defend themselves

the quote i was replying said "using them" and i assumed he meant physically

 

[chillgirl]

I'll rate you and tell you if this is true

I am the best male gaze accessor
Im looksmaxxing @galaxygirl to be my future asian side piece let em know

nah, I’ll pass, I was rated my 2 girl here tho

 

[holytruecoper]

the quote i was replying said "using them" and i assumed he meant physically

but im not wrong. you can fuck with them and they enjoy it thats not called r**e, they didnt even know you used them.
r**e is basically meaning you fucked someone against their will.

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

You see this kind of complaint everywhere. Any time a guy talks about a woman's physical attractiveness, or more commonly about her sex appeal, it's labeled as "objectifying" and judged as bad.

But what's so bad about objectification? You're objectifying somebody to the extent that your intentions are directed towards their body. Because the body is the object. But why is that bad, again? Our intentions are directed towards people's bodies all the time - any time you use physical help from someone, whether in paying for a service or receiving a favor, you're using their body. Their body is reduced to a machine to do some physical task for you. You're not denying their humanity in any way by doing this - to the extent that you're not restricting their rights or abusing them in any way, and they consent to whatever they're doing for you, you're acknowledging their humanity.

This applies to sexual attraction. A guy desiring a woman's body, with no mention of her mind or personality, is not necessarily bad. What's the offence here? Commenting on someone's sex appeal doesn't imply "this woman is a body with no mind, ah if i could get ahold of her i would treat her like a sex doll." any more than thinking about hiring a plumber implies you want to use their body as a plumbing machine.

Same thing with the term "fetishizing". A fetish is a strong sexual attraction towards body parts, situations, activities or objects. Presumably not sexual characteristics. So any time you have a particular attraction to a feature of someone's body, clothing, personality, etc. you're fetishizing them. So i guess if fetishizing is bad, then you're only allowed to be attracted to people for their sexual characteristics? LMAO

It’s bad when subhuman does it but not chad women use this to their convenience

Women justify emotion as reason to do something so they don’t even know they’re doing this if some subhuman calls them hot they will find some excuse to convince themselves and others it’s creepy but if chad does it somehow it’s hot

 

[Superbia]

but im not wrong. you can fuck with them and they enjoy it thats not called r**e, they didnt even know you used them.
r**e is basically meaning you fucked someone against their will.

he said using someone against their knowledge or consent

 

[fashist]

It’s bad when subhuman does it but not chad women use this to their convenience

Women justify emotion as reason to do something so they don’t even know they’re doing this if some subhuman calls them hot they will find some excuse to convince themselves and others it’s creepy but if chad does it somehow it’s hot

it’s bc it’s more ‘valuable’ from a chad
a subhuman could call anything hot to try and pull
idk

 

[holytruecoper]

he said using someone against their knowledge or consent

using someone against their knowledge isnt r**e OMFG.
are you fucking dumb?
do i need to repeat same shit everytime?
r**e is a severe form of sexual assault involving non-consensual sexual penetration, often involving force, coercion, or taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability.

 

[Superbia]

It’s bad when subhuman does it but not chad women use this to their convenience

Women justify emotion as reason to do something so they don’t even know they’re doing this if some subhuman calls them hot they will find some excuse to convince themselves and others it’s creepy but if chad does it somehow it’s hot

what about situations where the women are the third party and the woman being "objectified" is a celebrity?

it happens on social media with men who don't show their face, but even if its IRL or they do show their face, the women who say this stuff are still a third party and have no stake in how attractive the guy is

 

[BigDihDiddy ⚦]

it’s bc it’s more ‘valuable’ from a chad
a subhuman could call anything hot to try and pull
idk

I mean chad also calls anyone hot as long as he wants to fuck them tho something u learn with the BP is there is no such thing as a creep

A creep is basically someone who’s not attractive enough to pull of what he’s trying to do and the uglier u are the easier it is to be considered a creep meanwhile a legit chad would be virtually immune to it

If ur sub Normie even a hello to someone can get u called a creep for instance ppl have their guard up 24/7

 

[holytruecoper]

using someone against their knowledge isnt r**e OMFG.
are you fucking dumb?
do i need to repeat same shit everytime?
r**e is a severe form of sexual assault involving non-consensual sexual penetration, often involving force, coercion, or taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability.

@Superbia are you gonna ignore me? ofc

 

[Superbia]

using someone against their knowledge isnt r**e OMFG.
are you fucking dumb?
do i need to repeat same shit everytime?
r**e is a severe form of sexual assault involving non-consensual sexual penetration, often involving force, coercion, or taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability.

are you trolling? using someone's body physically for sexual reasons without their consent or knowledge meets your definition

 

[fashist]

I mean chad also calls anyone hot as long as he wants to fuck them tho something u learn with the BP is there is no such thing as a creep

A creep is basically someone who’s not attractive enough to pull of what he’s trying to do and the uglier u are the easier it is to be considered a creep meanwhile a legit chad would be virtually immune to it

If ur sub Normie even a hello to someone can get u called a creep for instance ppl have their guard up 24/7

depends on ur definition of creep
if ur a pedo, have weird or illegal fetishes or anything like that then ur a creep regardless of ur looks
tho people will let anything slide these days
richard ramirez prime example
literal serial killer who gets glorified by stupid foids

 

[holytruecoper]

are you trolling? using someone's body physically for sexual reasons without their consent or knowledge meets your definition

yes you are low iq
"the person doesn't agree to it, and it may happen through threats, force, or by taking advantage of them" i dont see without their knowledge

 

[Superbia]

yes you are low iq
"the person doesn't agree to it, and it may happen through threats, force, or by taking advantage of them" i dont see without their knowledge

why did you omit the first part?

"r**e is a severe form of sexual assault involving non-consensual sexual penetration,"

acts only need to fit the first part of that definition, since the second part describes the other features as being present "often", implying there are instances of r**e which don't have them, therefore they're not necessary

and doing it without someone's knowledge necessarily implies that you're doing it without their consent, since to consent to something you need to have knowledge of it

not to mention i mentioned "without consent" in my post already

 

[fashist]

why did you omit the first part?

"r**e is a severe form of sexual assault involving non-consensual sexual penetration,"

acts only need to fit the first part of that definition, since the second part describes the other features as being present "often", implying there are instances of r**e which don't have them, therefore they're not necessary

and doing it without someone's knowledge necessarily implies that you're doing it without their consent, since to consent to something you need to have knowledge of it

not to mention i mentioned "without consent" in my post already

holy fuck if u use somebody for their body for sex and they don’t know ur using them but they still consented to the actual intercourse then it’s not fucking r**e
8/10 ragebait

 

[Altruist]

because they are fat, ugly or old or all of it

 

[Superbia]

holy fuck if u use somebody for their body for sex and they don’t know ur using them but they still consented to the actual intercourse then it’s not fucking r**e
8/10 ragebait

how do you consent to something you have no knowledge of?

 

[fashist]

how do you consent to something you have no knowledge of?

you have knowledge of the sex??

 

[Superbia]

you have knowledge of the sex??

so not what i was talking about
my example was about instances where the person has no knowledge of the sexual act

 

[fashist]

so not what i was talking about
my example was about instances where the person has no knowledge of the sexual act

and r**e is talking about sex tf

 

[Superbia]

and r**e is talking about sex tf

>trolling cause you realized you were wrong