Why do you hate women as a man?

[foidslayer]

Let's find better sources with actual academic weight next time. "Clinicsoncall.com" isn't the most reputable.
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38726676/
- https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog...geon-matter-a-new-study-says-yes-202202172691

And I did do research on the iq and I rescind my take. You are indeed correct that men have a mean IQ around 4-5 points higher. However, this comes with variability. There are twice more men with an iq of 120 as there are twice more men clinically retarded.

To debunk your claim that men are always better leaders or that in religion they always worship men, we will look at their tendencies and the way early societies were built. In the early days of humanity, physical strength carried more importance that successful resource allocation, but both combined would allow for the most success, so men with both would take the power. By physical strength, I am talking about muscle strength, not endurance. As endurance, which has a greater prevalence in women, would be practically obsolete at this point in history. Another reason why men are often in positions of power is the ability to overestimate their abilities. Women are more likely to only apply to a job when they know they are capable of all things that are needed, while a man is more likely to apply without experience believing he can learn on the go. This leads to greater death and impulsivity, but also opens up new opportunities.

In the modern day however, the long term planning skills women posses are becoming increasingly important. They recently did a study that instead of using "yes" or "no" questions on a critical thinking asessment, they also provided the attendents with 80 tokens for 8 options they could use to measure their confidence in each answer. Like betting, the amount they placed on the correct answer would allow them to keep those tokens. In this study the results showed that women were more accurate at spreading their tokens out and would end up with the most long term. They men would be overly confident and gain at first but then lose a lot/most on final high stakes questions, while women were able to persevere and lose less.

A common trend I am seeing across the differences is that variance and outliers/swaying is more common in men and stability is more common in women. Big risks equate big gains and losses, while stable decisions can build over time with less growth.

But anyway, your idea of better "physically and mentally js cope more" is not the best display of intelligence. I will not insult your fundamental character as I find that petty and will not stoop to the level of asking other people to get "rped" and calling them "fat" for the crime of being annoying, but I would encourage you to stop thinking in such a black and white mentality.

Social media's portrayal of men and women has destroyed their relationship with gender wars and such.
Yes, men commit most violent crimes and cause greater hurt than women, but still the perception for each is skewed.
You should not view a woman's body as "slutty" if it's not for you, nor berate them for their looks and wish violence upon them--high iq people do better than that. And women should not automatically hate/bully guys for their looks and assume the worst. Safety first (because of violence) but when you are not in danger, obviously do not make a guy feel like shit.
Violence is not equal to hurtful words obviously, but I know many guys on these forums feel like they are so I am mentioning both.

I hope you come to realize that you are making a fool out of yourself.
Whether you are high iq or not, this is not acceptable behavior for a human being.
I know you will get defensive, but try to read through what I have said and correct your behavior like I have rescinded my misconceptions.
Whether you think you are better or not, do not treat others in this horrid manner.

wallahi im not reading all this

@Xx_JihadiNafriggER22_xX she talm bout my iq does she know

 

[Zaddy000]

wallahi im not reading all this

@Xx_JihadiNafriggER22_xX she talm bout my iq does she know

I have an iq of 145.
And no I dont know what you are talking about
Let's put a little effort in. It should take you less than a minute and a half to read it.

 

[foidslayer]

I have an iq of 145.
And no I dont know what you are talking about
Let's put a little effort in. It should take you less than a minute and a half to read it.

while you do have a high iq undeniably there's always a bigger fish

I read the first couple sentences of the paragraphs you sent. Your arguement about women being smarter is that they take less risks. Meanwhile testosterone in men makes them inclined to take more risks.

If you wanna talk about money the richest person is a man

The smartest person is a Man

The strongest person is a Man

“In the early days of humanity, physical strength carried more importance... so men with both would take the power.”

That's an evolutionary hypothesis not something demonstrated by the preceding evidence lmfao women had millions of years to overcome men in different ways yet till this day they rely on men for their rights

Also women are more scientifically attracted to men that exhibit the violent psychopathic traits and breed with them making more ones that are the ones commiting the most violent crimes statistically

First, every study included in that metaanalysis was observational. There were ZERO randomized trials assigning patients randomly to male or female surgeons . That means surgeon sex cannot be treated as the causal variable. Even after statistical adjustment, observational studies can have residual confounding and selection effects.

Second, the effect itself is relatively small. An adjusted OR of 0.93 is about a 7% reduction in odds and an odds ratio isn't even a direct 7% reduction in absolute mortality. You'd need the baseline risk to calculate the absolute difference wouldn't you huh

Third, the paper itself gives you a major clue about how cautious you should be the evidence for readmissions and complications was rated VERY LOW certainty. There was no statistically significant difference in complications (aOR 0.94, 95% CI 0.88–1.01), and no statistically significant difference in readmission (aOR 1.20, 95% CI 0.83–1.74). soo the study isn't showing some broad female superiority in surgical outcomes bro Its strongest finding is specifically an association with mortality.

Fourth, a large BMJ observational study of 892,187 older surgical patients found NO statistically significant difference in operative mortality between female and male surgeons after adjustment (aOR 0.97, 95% CI 0.93–1.01).

And there's an even more recent 2025 systematic review/meta-analysis of operative mortality that pooled five retrospective cohort studies containing 1,055,122 operations and found NO significant mortality difference between male and female surgeons: pooled OR 0.96 (95% CI 0.88–1.05)

There is also a 2025 systematic review/meta-analysis specifically examining early complications after elective surgery. It included 4,440,740 patients and found no association between surgeon gender and its composite outcome of mortality, readmission, and complications (OR 0.97, 95% CI 0.95–1.00), with substantial heterogeneity (I² = 64.9%).

So we have multiple high-quality observational syntheses that don't all point in exactly the same direction. That should immediately make us cautious about claiming that surgeon sex itself causes better outcomes.

even IF we accept the 2024 meta-analysis's finding at face value, it still doesn't prove your broader argument lmfao

And attacking me for what I said to her might seem valid if you just see what I said but you haven't seen anything she's said to me or others in any other thread there's a reason she's banned

 

[polgrev]

I believe men have no reason to hate women and thats a take i would stand by till the day i die.
Whenever i ask a man why he hates women its either
-"hypergamy" (wich exists bc of men throwing themselves at any woman they see and having no standards so they obv pick the best option.
-being emotional: doesnt make sense to me
And overall shit takes like yapping..etc

But if you ask me why i hate men i could give you a long ass list with valid reasons such as:
Violent crime, r**e and sexual violence, domestic abuse, marital r**e, child marriage, human trafficking, honor based violence, persecution of women accused of witchcraft (they literally used to burn women who tried to invent shit, thats why most things nowadays are invented by men and accused them of witchcraft), stripping women from legal and political rights, forced labor, exploitation....etc and so on

Dnr

 

[polgrev]

while you do have a high iq undeniably there's always a bigger fish

I read the first couple sentences of the paragraphs you sent. Your arguement about women being smarter is that they take less risks. Meanwhile testosterone in men makes them inclined to take more risks.

If you wanna talk about money the richest person is a man

The smartest person is a Man

The strongest person is a Man

“In the early days of humanity, physical strength carried more importance... so men with both would take the power.”

That's an evolutionary hypothesis not something demonstrated by the preceding evidence lmfao women had millions of years to overcome men in different ways yet till this day they rely on men for their rights

Also women are more scientifically attracted to men that exhibit the violent psychopathic traits and breed with them making more ones that are the ones commiting the most violent crimes statistically

First, every study included in that metaanalysis was observational. There were ZERO randomized trials assigning patients randomly to male or female surgeons . That means surgeon sex cannot be treated as the causal variable. Even after statistical adjustment, observational studies can have residual confounding and selection effects.

Second, the effect itself is relatively small. An adjusted OR of 0.93 is about a 7% reduction in odds and an odds ratio isn't even a direct 7% reduction in absolute mortality. You'd need the baseline risk to calculate the absolute difference wouldn't you huh

Third, the paper itself gives you a major clue about how cautious you should be the evidence for readmissions and complications was rated VERY LOW certainty. There was no statistically significant difference in complications (aOR 0.94, 95% CI 0.88–1.01), and no statistically significant difference in readmission (aOR 1.20, 95% CI 0.83–1.74). soo the study isn't showing some broad female superiority in surgical outcomes bro Its strongest finding is specifically an association with mortality.

Fourth, a large BMJ observational study of 892,187 older surgical patients found NO statistically significant difference in operative mortality between female and male surgeons after adjustment (aOR 0.97, 95% CI 0.93–1.01).

And there's an even more recent 2025 systematic review/meta-analysis of operative mortality that pooled five retrospective cohort studies containing 1,055,122 operations and found NO significant mortality difference between male and female surgeons: pooled OR 0.96 (95% CI 0.88–1.05)

There is also a 2025 systematic review/meta-analysis specifically examining early complications after elective surgery. It included 4,440,740 patients and found no association between surgeon gender and its composite outcome of mortality, readmission, and complications (OR 0.97, 95% CI 0.95–1.00), with substantial heterogeneity (I² = 64.9%).

So we have multiple high-quality observational syntheses that don't all point in exactly the same direction. That should immediately make us cautious about claiming that surgeon sex itself causes better outcomes.

even IF we accept the 2024 meta-analysis's finding at face value, it still doesn't prove your broader argument lmfao

And attacking me for what I said to her might seem valid if you just see what I said but you haven't seen anything she's said to me or others in any other thread there's a reason she's banned

Holy effort just for them to dnr everything you just said

 

[foidslayer]

Holy effort just for them to dnr everything you just said

Women want to claim they're superior and oppressed at the same time. Make it make sense; you can't be a victim and an abuser at the same time

Also adding onto the "males are more violent claim". Studies show that domestic violence between lesbian couples is much higher and common than domestic abuse within gay couples.

Safe to say from that and multiple other studies and analysis that women would be more violent and cruel given the same power and opportunity.

@Zaddy000

 

[polgrev]

Women want to claim they're superior and oppressed at the same time. Make it make sense; you can't be a victim and an abuser at the same time

Also adding onto the "males are more violent claim". Studies show that domestic violence between lesbian couples is much higher and common than domestic abuse within gay couples.

Safe to say from that and multiple other studies and analysis that women would be more violent and cruel given the same power and opportunity.

@Zaddy000

I think it boils down to the fact that most women have to be right, and refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong

They also act more on emotions, rather than being logical

 

[foidslayer]

I think it boils down to the fact that most women have to be right, and refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong

They also act more on emotions, rather than being logical

Women complain about men being violent when it's just relative to their strength

you can't expect 2 gorillas to fight like 2 chickens

 

[Xx_JihadiNafriggER22_xX]

Women complain about men being violent when it's just relative to their strength

you can't expect 2 gorillas to fight like 2 chickens

Water, were the same species of predators theyre just physically weaker

 

[foidslayer]

Water, were the same species of predators theyre just physically weaker

"muhh men commit violence!!"

yea maybe cause women are meant to nurture the children while the men protect them with their lives

 

[Zaddy000]

while you do have a high iq undeniably there's always a bigger fish

I read the first couple sentences of the paragraphs you sent. Your arguement about women being smarter is that they take less risks. Meanwhile testosterone in men makes them inclined to take more risks.

If you wanna talk about money the richest person is a man

The smartest person is a Man

The strongest person is a Man

“In the early days of humanity, physical strength carried more importance... so men with both would take the power.”

That's an evolutionary hypothesis not something demonstrated by the preceding evidence lmfao women had millions of years to overcome men in different ways yet till this day they rely on men for their rights

Also women are more scientifically attracted to men that exhibit the violent psychopathic traits and breed with them making more ones that are the ones commiting the most violent crimes statistically

First, every study included in that metaanalysis was observational. There were ZERO randomized trials assigning patients randomly to male or female surgeons . That means surgeon sex cannot be treated as the causal variable. Even after statistical adjustment, observational studies can have residual confounding and selection effects.

Second, the effect itself is relatively small. An adjusted OR of 0.93 is about a 7% reduction in odds and an odds ratio isn't even a direct 7% reduction in absolute mortality. You'd need the baseline risk to calculate the absolute difference wouldn't you huh

Third, the paper itself gives you a major clue about how cautious you should be the evidence for readmissions and complications was rated VERY LOW certainty. There was no statistically significant difference in complications (aOR 0.94, 95% CI 0.88–1.01), and no statistically significant difference in readmission (aOR 1.20, 95% CI 0.83–1.74). soo the study isn't showing some broad female superiority in surgical outcomes bro Its strongest finding is specifically an association with mortality.

Fourth, a large BMJ observational study of 892,187 older surgical patients found NO statistically significant difference in operative mortality between female and male surgeons after adjustment (aOR 0.97, 95% CI 0.93–1.01).

And there's an even more recent 2025 systematic review/meta-analysis of operative mortality that pooled five retrospective cohort studies containing 1,055,122 operations and found NO significant mortality difference between male and female surgeons: pooled OR 0.96 (95% CI 0.88–1.05)

There is also a 2025 systematic review/meta-analysis specifically examining early complications after elective surgery. It included 4,440,740 patients and found no association between surgeon gender and its composite outcome of mortality, readmission, and complications (OR 0.97, 95% CI 0.95–1.00), with substantial heterogeneity (I² = 64.9%).

So we have multiple high-quality observational syntheses that don't all point in exactly the same direction. That should immediately make us cautious about claiming that surgeon sex itself causes better outcomes.

even IF we accept the 2024 meta-analysis's finding at face value, it still doesn't prove your broader argument lmfao

And attacking me for what I said to her might seem valid if you just see what I said but you haven't seen anything she's said to me or others in any other thread there's a reason she's banned

@polgrev
I did admit when I was wrong. Please read my statement above. If I wanted to act on emotions and logic, then I would likely have just said "dnr"

You misinterpreted what I said.
I was not claiming women were smarter and men more impulsive due to testosterone. I was saying their applications of intelligence and they way their intelligence presents are different.

As for your point on the richest man, you are not contradicting what I have said. If you look into his life, most/all of his successes due to him taking extreme risks and investing into projects that were considered "stupid" to waste your money on. He had a great sense and ended up succeeding, but this kind of behavior is what also drives men to gamble their whole home and shoot themselves after losing. As i said, great risk, great loss/reward.

For my evolutionary hypothesis, of course strength would be a major dictator of power for a couple thousand years as technology had not been invented yet. It is not millions of years, nor is it purely gender based. Roles are affected by the environment and resources available.

For the meta-analysis and such studies, yes the major compilation of cohorts show that there is a statistically insignificant difference and that in emergency surgeries there are no differences, there are still studies (specifically in Ontario, Canada) that have a slight increase in survival rates, as opposed to none that show the opposite. This, no matter how slight, disproves your claim that men are better surgeons--while keeping mine in a limbo. However, this is no where near the main point of my messages.

For your scientific study that women are more attracted to men with violent psychopathic behavior does not contradict mine, as it is again, due to traits like assuming competence and extreme confidence, fearlessness, social confidence, and absence of self doubt. Our points lay on top of each other rather than contradicting one another. It is due to their perceived confidence opposed to the want for violence, which naturally comes as a package due to the reduced guilt and consequence blindness. I do not know what you are trying to prove with this statement in the first place as it does not really have a place in the general argument, but regardless, I will entertain it.

Women want to claim they're superior and oppressed at the same time. Make it make sense; you can't be a victim and an abuser at the same time

Also adding onto the "males are more violent claim". Studies show that domestic violence between lesbian couples is much higher and common than domestic abuse within gay couples.

Safe to say from that and multiple other studies and analysis that women would be more violent and cruel given the same power and opportunity.

@Zaddy000

Two things can be true at once. For one, I never said women are superior or men are superior.
But, overlap exists. Being better at one thing doesn't mean you can't be weak in another. Being good at long term planning doesn't equal abuse. If you thought a little deeper into the claim "you can't be a victim and an abuser at the same time," you would see how shallow it actually is. I know it is repeated verbatim in many places, but I would say you cannot be the victim and an abuser in the same field at the same time; emphasis on same field.
I never once said women would/wouldn't be more violent and cruel with the same power but the statistics don't lie.
That theory is hypothetical, but the violence is real. @Xx_JihadiNafriggER22_xX
And please provide those studies.

My criticism of your comments are directed to you, and you only. I have seen her messages and they were also vile, but I am talking to you, not her. It doesn't mean I am defending her, but rather disapproving of how you stooped to her level. I see you insulting women and calling them the lesser humans, not taking my words seriously when they have substance to them, but I still do not return that kind of mindless hate.
My main point is be a better person. An iq of 105 vs 100 doesn't mean one person is "better" than the other. Someone being better at weight lifting doesn't mean the other person is worth less. I never treat men with sexism, nor do I women. You can see on many of my other posts that I call out both genders if their actions make them a shit person. Look at the world with more nuance. Do not keep the world in black and white, I usually dont spew bs about "oh environmental factors" but much of the world truly is due to that. You imply you are high iq so I will treat you like you are such. Do not think in black and white. It will lead you to look over so many pitfalls.

As for you @polgrev
Please look at what you are saying and question if it logical. At least foidslayer is doing research and looking at facts. I cannot say the same for you as you are only regurgitating the mysogynistic bs you see online.

 

[Zaddy000]

Women complain about men being violent when it's just relative to their strength

you can't expect 2 gorillas to fight like 2 chickens

Yes, because the violence causes real damage. Chickens are also violent when they attack, but you never see news broadcasts when one chases you but only when the gorilla does. They complain about the damage done, not the hypothetical strength.

 

[Br4va]

How is this thread still
Up?

 

[foidslayer]

@polgrev
I did admit when I was wrong. Please read my statement above. If I wanted to act on emotions and logic, then I would likely have just said "dnr"

You misinterpreted what I said.
I was not claiming women were smarter and men more impulsive due to testosterone. I was saying their applications of intelligence and they way their intelligence presents are different.

As for your point on the richest man, you are not contradicting what I have said. If you look into his life, most/all of his successes due to him taking extreme risks and investing into projects that were considered "stupid" to waste your money on. He had a great sense and ended up succeeding, but this kind of behavior is what also drives men to gamble their whole home and shoot themselves after losing. As i said, great risk, great loss/reward.

For my evolutionary hypothesis, of course strength would be a major dictator of power for a couple thousand years as technology had not been invented yet. It is not millions of years, nor is it purely gender based. Roles are affected by the environment and resources available.

For the meta-analysis and such studies, yes the major compilation of cohorts show that there is a statistically insignificant difference and that in emergency surgeries there are no differences, there are still studies (specifically in Ontario, Canada) that have a slight increase in survival rates, as opposed to none that show the opposite. This, no matter how slight, disproves your claim that men are better surgeons--while keeping mine in a limbo. However, this is no where near the main point of my messages.

For your scientific study that women are more attracted to men with violent psychopathic behavior does not contradict mine, as it is again, due to traits like assuming competence and extreme confidence, fearlessness, social confidence, and absence of self doubt. Our points lay on top of each other rather than contradicting one another. It is due to their perceived confidence opposed to the want for violence, which naturally comes as a package due to the reduced guilt and consequence blindness. I do not know what you are trying to prove with this statement in the first place as it does not really have a place in the general argument, but regardless, I will entertain it.


Two things can be true at once. For one, I never said women are superior or men are superior.
But, overlap exists. Being better at one thing doesn't mean you can't be weak in another. Being good at long term planning doesn't equal abuse. If you thought a little deeper into the claim "you can't be a victim and an abuser at the same time," you would see how shallow it actually is. I know it is repeated verbatim in many places, but I would say you cannot be the victim and an abuser in the same field at the same time; emphasis on same field.
I never once said women would/wouldn't be more violent and cruel with the same power but the statistics don't lie. That theory is hypothetical, but the violence is real. And please provide those studies.

My criticism of your comments are directed to you, and you only. I have seen her messages and they were also vile, but I am talking to you, not her. It doesn't mean I am defending her, but rather disapproving of how you stooped to her level. I see you insulting women and calling them the lesser humans, not taking my words seriously when they have substance to them, but I still do not return that kind of mindless hate.
My main point is be a better person. An iq of 105 vs 100 doesn't mean one person is "better" than the other. Someone being better at weight lifting doesn't mean the other person is worth less. I never treat men with sexism, nor do I women. You can see on many of my other posts that I call out both genders if their actions make them a shit person. Look at the world with more nuance. Do not keep the world in black and white, I usually dont spew bs about "oh environmental factors" but much of the world truly is due to that. You imply you are high iq so I will treat you like you are such. Do not think in black and white. It will lead you to look over so many pitfalls.

As for you @polgrev
Please look at what you are saying and question if it logical. At least foidslayer is doing research and looking at facts. I cannot say the same for you as you are only regurgitating the mysogynistic bs you see online.

@foidslayer How old are you

it's not just iq either

Yes, because the violence causes real damage. Chickens are also violent when they attack, but you never see news broadcasts when one chases you but only when the gorilla does. They complain about the damage done, not the hypothetical strength.

The difference is gorillas can handle the violence. The "violence" is relative to their strength

 

[Zaddy000]

it's not just iq either
View attachment 403964


The difference is gorillas can handle the violence. The "violence" is relative to their strength

Your last statement is a given.

Just look at the main point. It shouldn't be too hard to find. I even outlined it for u

 

[foidslayer]

Your last statement is a given.

Just look at the main point. It shouldn't be too hard to find. I even outlined it for u

thanks genius yes they focus on the destruction but the thing is men can handle the destruction which is why you're living in a safe environment.

@polgrev
I did admit when I was wrong. Please read my statement above. If I wanted to act on emotions and logic, then I would likely have just said "dnr"

You misinterpreted what I said.
I was not claiming women were smarter and men more impulsive due to testosterone. I was saying their applications of intelligence and they way their intelligence presents are different.

As for your point on the richest man, you are not contradicting what I have said. If you look into his life, most/all of his successes due to him taking extreme risks and investing into projects that were considered "stupid" to waste your money on. He had a great sense and ended up succeeding, but this kind of behavior is what also drives men to gamble their whole home and shoot themselves after losing. As i said, great risk, great loss/reward.

For my evolutionary hypothesis, of course strength would be a major dictator of power for a couple thousand years as technology had not been invented yet. It is not millions of years, nor is it purely gender based. Roles are affected by the environment and resources available.

For the meta-analysis and such studies, yes the major compilation of cohorts show that there is a statistically insignificant difference and that in emergency surgeries there are no differences, there are still studies (specifically in Ontario, Canada) that have a slight increase in survival rates, as opposed to none that show the opposite. This, no matter how slight, disproves your claim that men are better surgeons--while keeping mine in a limbo. However, this is no where near the main point of my messages.

For your scientific study that women are more attracted to men with violent psychopathic behavior does not contradict mine, as it is again, due to traits like assuming competence and extreme confidence, fearlessness, social confidence, and absence of self doubt. Our points lay on top of each other rather than contradicting one another. It is due to their perceived confidence opposed to the want for violence, which naturally comes as a package due to the reduced guilt and consequence blindness. I do not know what you are trying to prove with this statement in the first place as it does not really have a place in the general argument, but regardless, I will entertain it.


Two things can be true at once. For one, I never said women are superior or men are superior.
But, overlap exists. Being better at one thing doesn't mean you can't be weak in another. Being good at long term planning doesn't equal abuse. If you thought a little deeper into the claim "you can't be a victim and an abuser at the same time," you would see how shallow it actually is. I know it is repeated verbatim in many places, but I would say you cannot be the victim and an abuser in the same field at the same time; emphasis on same field.
I never once said women would/wouldn't be more violent and cruel with the same power but the statistics don't lie.
That theory is hypothetical, but the violence is real. @Xx_JihadiNafriggER22_xX
And please provide those studies.

My criticism of your comments are directed to you, and you only. I have seen her messages and they were also vile, but I am talking to you, not her. It doesn't mean I am defending her, but rather disapproving of how you stooped to her level. I see you insulting women and calling them the lesser humans, not taking my words seriously when they have substance to them, but I still do not return that kind of mindless hate.
My main point is be a better person. An iq of 105 vs 100 doesn't mean one person is "better" than the other. Someone being better at weight lifting doesn't mean the other person is worth less. I never treat men with sexism, nor do I women. You can see on many of my other posts that I call out both genders if their actions make them a shit person. Look at the world with more nuance. Do not keep the world in black and white, I usually dont spew bs about "oh environmental factors" but much of the world truly is due to that. You imply you are high iq so I will treat you like you are such. Do not think in black and white. It will lead you to look over so many pitfalls.

As for you @polgrev
Please look at what you are saying and question if it logical. At least foidslayer is doing research and looking at facts. I cannot say the same for you as you are only regurgitating the mysogynistic bs you see online.

oh trust me women were never about personality talking from personal experience i tell them im a psychopath that wants to torture them and they still dont gaf and continue to beg for me

Women enjoy the "thrill" behind it more than anything

 

[Xx_JihadiNafriggER22_xX]

thanks genius yes they focus on the destruction but the thing is men can handle the destruction which is why you're living in a safe environment.


oh trust me women were never about personality talking from personal experience i tell them im a psychopath that eants to torture them and they still dont gaf and continue to beg for me

Women enjoy the "thrill" behind it more than anything

Zaddy may very well be a leea alt btw ngl atleast if it is shes tolerable now

 

[foidslayer]

Zaddy may very well be a leea alt btw ngl atleast if it is shes tolerable now

lea could never form a post longer than 100 characters

 

[Zaddy000]

Zaddy may very well be a leea alt btw ngl atleast if it is shes tolerable now

Don't insult me like that.

thanks genius yes they focus on the destruction but the thing is men can handle the destruction which is why you're living in a safe environment.


oh trust me women were never about personality talking from personal experience i tell them im a psychopath that wants to torture them and they still dont gaf and continue to beg for me

Women enjoy the "thrill" behind it more than anything

Again, that isn't the main point. You have also sum weird ass women near you. The majority aren't like that, and I too, am talking from personal experience. I've also had dudes wanna pay me to dominate them so OUR anecdotal evidence isn't valid. Let's stick to the stats

 

[foidslayer]

Don't insult me like that.


Again, that isn't the main point. You have also sum weird ass women near you. The majority aren't like that, and I too, am talking from personal experience. I've also had dudes wanna pay me to dominate them so OUR anecdotal evidence isn't valid. Let's stick to the stats

Matter of fact

 

[Zaddy000]

Matter of fact

View attachment 403968

True but not relevant to the topic at hand.

 

[foidslayer]

True but not relevant to the topic at hand.

It is. Women going for "personality" is just them going for looks.

 

[Zaddy000]

It is. Women going for "personality" is just them going for looks.

Yes but it is lacking a couple key factors as the seperation between men and women in the chart, and BDSM interests like torture. I believe the chart is mapping general "personality" and "look" traits. Good looks cancel out awkwardness and cheating, but most women ik will draw the line at torture.
It's true generally but then women who want torture are the place that "weirdness comes in" like ts nasty bro

 

[foidslayer]

Yes but it is lacking a couple key factors as the seperation between men and women in the chart, and BDSM interests like torture. I believe the chart is mapping general "personality" and "look" traits. Good looks cancel out awkwardness and cheating, but most women ik will draw the line at torture.
It's true generally but then women who want torture are the place that "weirdness comes in" like ts nasty bro

no it's data from women on whi they think looks good and who has a good personality brah

 

[Valkyrjaj]

I dont hate women. But ive lost faith in believing there is a woman for me out there. Like one with whom it will actually work. Last one was insanely obsessed with me for almost 2 years and then in a matter of months suddenly lost interest. I ended up dumping her.

This ia just for ego, but I mogged her in every aspect both face and body. We were both basically same height tho (5'9)

 

[Zaddy000]

I dont hate women. But ive lost faith in believing there is a woman for me out there. Like one with whom it will actually work. Last one was insanely obsessed with me for almost 2 years and then in a matter of months suddenly lost interest. I ended up dumping her.

This ia just for ego, but I mogged her in every aspect both face and body. We were both basically same height tho (5'9)

Damn bro that's rough. Sorry that happened to you ik it's so hard when you think everything's gonna work out and it just doesn't

Just curious (not blaming) but cuz of the last sentence were you in the relationship for an ego boost or cuz you truly loved her? Ik after hurt like that those feelings are natural so I don't blame u at all

But dw, you are pretty good looking, im sure you'll find someone a tier over, under, or same. What really matters after looks is the personality, cuz real love is slow and boring, but if you enjoy that "boringness" together then you are meant to be. Sounds like she wasn't for you but don't lose hope. There are so many women out there.
And also, look at where you are finding these women. Don't try to look for a woman in a club if you want a non-partygoer, same goes for the opposite. Don't look for a woman in a book club if you like to go partying. Spend time in the places where you think the type of women you want will be.

 

[Valkyrjaj]

Damn bro that's rough. Sorry that happened to you ik it's so hard when you think everything's gonna work out and it just doesn't

Just curious (not blaming) but were you in the relationship for an ego boost or cuz you truly loved her?

But dw, you are pretty good looking, im sure you'll find someone a tier over, under, or same. What really matters after looks is the personality, cuz real love is slow and boring, but if you enjoy that "boringness" together then you are meant to be. Sounds like she wasn't for you but don't lose hope. There are so many women out there.
And also, look at where you are finding these women. Don't try to look for a woman in a club if you want a non-partygoer, same goes for the opposite. Don't look for a woman in a book club if you like to go partying. Spend time in the places where you think the type of women you want will be.

Women are weird bro. I stopped trying to undertsand them a while a ago

What i would describe my ex pattern was : if i treated her like shit aka getting angry, yelling, insulting her, calling her names, i blocked her 3 times and ghosted her 2 and almost cheated 2 times, she would act right, chase me with ZERO pride and basically crawl back to me

When i TRIED to change and told myslef i am treating her like shit, bizarrely she started treating me like shit. And she straght up told me :"weird you use to have an ego and kick me to the curved multiple times". And she kept treating me like shit and took shit from.her bc i started to care bc i genuinely liked her months later

Then she pushed me away to the point of me dumping her.

And no, she was my type facewise, but bodywise she was too skinny for me, but since I didn't had to do shit, she chased me, got free attention, validation, affection, love and fucking... well I told myself alright fuck it why not

 

[Valkyrjaj]

Damn bro that's rough. Sorry that happened to you ik it's so hard when you think everything's gonna work out and it just doesn't

Just curious (not blaming) but cuz of the last sentence were you in the relationship for an ego boost or cuz you truly loved her? Ik after hurt like that those feelings are natural so I don't blame u at all

But dw, you are pretty good looking, im sure you'll find someone a tier over, under, or same. What really matters after looks is the personality, cuz real love is slow and boring, but if you enjoy that "boringness" together then you are meant to be. Sounds like she wasn't for you but don't lose hope. There are so many women out there.
And also, look at where you are finding these women. Don't try to look for a woman in a club if you want a non-partygoer, same goes for the opposite. Don't look for a woman in a book club if you like to go partying. Spend time in the places where you think the type of women you want will be.

Her values were pretty similar to mine. We wanted the same thing in life (family) our problem was compatibility, we fought a lot and had too many scars. And nope this was not even a girl from a bif city, she was from a very small wich is very ideal bc better values.. but she was just too unstable

 

[Zaddy000]

Women are weird bro. I stopped trying to undertsand them a while a ago

What i would describe my ex pattern was : if i treated her like shit aka getting angry, yelling, insulting her, calling her names, i blocked her 3 times and ghosted her 2 and almost cheated 2 times, she would act right, chase me with ZERO pride and basically crawl back to me

When i TRIED to change and told myslef i am treating her like shit, bizarrely she started treating me like shit. And she straght up told me :"weird you use to have an ego and kick me to the curved multiple times". And she kept treating me like shit and took shit from.her bc i started to care bc i genuinely liked her months later

Then she pushed me away to the point of me dumping her.

And no, she was my type facewise, but bodywise she was too skinny for me, but since I didn't had to do shit, she chased me, got free attention, validation, affection, love and fucking... well I told myself alright fuck it why not

Damn what the hell.
Im a woman but that's weird behavior ngl.
Idk why she would chase you when you act like shit and hurt you when you try to change for the better.
You're not the one in the wrong here. You shouldn't treat people like shit but tbf most people have and the important part is that you changed for the better. What she did when you changed for the better is baffling to me.
A normal person would have left in the first stage, and if they decided to forgive you, would come back in the second stage. But dude ion even understand her. We're all confused here.

Dw, as long as you changed for the better and continue that you will find someone.
You did what you could, this was her doing it's nothing on your part

 

[Zaddy000]

Her values were pretty similar to mine. We wanted the same thing in life (family) our problem was compatibility, we fought a lot and had too many scars. And nope this was not even a girl from a bif city, she was from a very small wich is very ideal bc better values.. but she was just too unstable

It's not you and it's not women from what ive heard.
If it went down hill when you bettered yourself, then she would have stopped your moral character improvement.
Continue growing and maturing man you'll find someone

 

[Valkyrjaj]

Damn what the hell.
Im a woman but that's weird behavior ngl.
Idk why she would chase you when you act like shit and hurt you when you try to change for the better.
You're not the one in the wrong here. You shouldn't treat people like shit but tbf most people have and the important part is that you changed for the better. What she did when you changed for the better is baffling to me.
A normal person would have left in the first stage, and if they decided to forgive you, would come back in the second stage. But dude ion even understand her. We're all confused here.

Dw, as long as you changed for the better and continue that you will find someone.
You did what you could, this was her doing it's nothing on your part

I had a previous bad experience with another girl before her. I was stupid enough to trust her blindly like an idiot. I basically put my trust on her and got fucked up mentally. I became basically a woman hater bc of hirt (wich im not today). And so I took my pain on her. Wich i wouldn't had to do

And the reason she did all that was bc she "feared losing me". So i guess she chased me when she saw i would treat her like shit. But the moment i actually tried to make things work she took me from granted i guess

She also had a very weird mentality. She told me : "i want a man who i feel could get any girl he wants but chooses me". So i guess since i chose her despite her treating me like shit at the end, well i lost all "value" (i guess) in her eyes

She also had some weird ass stories with other men before me that werent too clear for me (gave me 304 vibes). But with me she acted like the virgin mary jfl. Ironically she ended up acting like a whore (yes thats the word she deserves) after i dumped. The bitch added FIVE guys on ig THE DAY AFTER I DUMPED HER. So i guess she was always a slut, except with me

Weeks latee she told me that NOW it wasnt over that we could try again in the future. I GUESS THE GRASS WASNT GREENER BITCH

 

[Zaddy000]

I had a previous bad experience with another girl before her. I was stupid enough to trust her blindly like an idiot. I basically put my trust on her and got fucked up mentally. I became basically a woman hater bc of hirt (wich im not today). And so I took my pain on her. Wich i wouldn't had to do

And the reason she did all that was bc she "feared losing me". So i guess she chased me when she saw i would treat her like shit. But the moment i actually tried to make things work she took me from granted i guess

She also had a very weird mentality. She told me : "i want a man who i feel could get any girl he wants but chooses me". So i guess since i chose her despite her treating me like shit at the end, well i lost all "value" (i guess) in her eyes

She also had some weird ass stories with other men before me that werent too clear for me (gave me 304 vibes). But with me she acted like the virgin mary jfl. Ironically she ended up acting like a whore (yes thats the word she deserves) after i dumped. The bitch added FIVE guys on ig THE DAY AFTER I DUMPED HER. So i guess she was always a slut, except with me

Weeks latee she told me that NOW it wasnt over that we could try again in the future. I GUESS THE GRASS WASNT GREENER BITCH

Lol she sounds like a bum. Why would anybody take their partner for granted. Woman/Man that's shitty ass behavior and you have the right to be angry (js don't hurt others for it cuz don't stoop to her level) but genuienly don't lose hope bro. You will find someone
But yeah oml adding ppl right after breaking up is bunz holy shit I would have been fuming

 

[Valkyrjaj]

Lol she sounds like a bum. Why would anybody take their partner for granted. Woman/Man that's shitty ass behavior and you have the right to be angry (js don't hurt others for it cuz don't stoop to her level) but genuienly don't lose hope bro. You will find someone
But yeah oml adding ppl right after breaking up is bunz holy shit I would have been fuming

Yeah in my opinion, adding five guys the day after the breakup is not "moving on" its being a whore.

I dumped her bc i saw a notification from a guy i didnt knew pop up on her phone. I told her "whos that". She said "I DONT KNOW AND I DONT CARE"

so i told her "well why you text him?"

She said "i BIZAREELLY accepted his follow, and now you talk to me about it. You seem to care more about that than me. And why are you even focusing on that? (Gaslighting 101)

So i said again "block the guy or im dumping you"

She got angry AS FUCK and she said : "ill make it easier for you. Im out"

We argued a lot more after that but i was the one who officiàlly ended it

She gave me some bs excuse saying "she wasnt feeling well and that I DESERVED A WOMAN WHO WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME"

I told her that that is straight up bullshit and that i dumped her for being a HOE

She got angry again and that "i made big problems out of small things"

Miracoulously the bitch came weeks later bc NOW well.... it wasnt fully over and we could try again... we both know you failed to replace me lol

 

[Zaddy000]

Yeah in my opinion, adding five guys the day after the breakup is not "moving on" its being a whore.

I dumped her bc i saw a notification from a guy i didnt knew pop up on her phone. I told hee "whos that". She said "I DONT KNOW AND I DONT CARE"

so i told her "well why you text him?"

She said "i BIZAREELLY accepted his follow, and now you talk to me about it. You seem to care more about that than me. And why are you even focusing on that? (Gaslighting 101)

So i said again "block the guy or im dumping you"

She got angry AS FUCK and she said : "ill make it easiee for you. Im out"

We argued a lot more after that and so i was the one who officiàlly ended it

She gave me some bs excuse saying "she wasnt feeling well and that I DESERVED A WOMAN WHO WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME"

I told her that is straight up bullshit and that i dumped hee for being a HOE

She got angry again and that "i made big problems out of small things"

Miracoulously the bitch came weeks later bc NOW well.... it wasnt fully over and we could try again... we both know you failed to replace me lol

I don't really support calling women whore/sluts but this is genueinely nasty behavior and I approve.
Normal people who cared for someone don't just add 5 people the day after the breakup. They mourn for themselves and their partner (unless it was abusive but it wasn't in this case) and build themselves up again.
I have friends that do add dudes after breaking up (only if they werent in the wrong like they got cheated on etc, or else I dump them, I'm not friends with bad people) but usually it's because they want to make they guy jealous.

But looking at the convo,
What the hell is she talking about.
It's literally the most normal thing to ask abt a different guy
So defensive for nothing. Im mad js looking at it
U dodged a bullet bro don't go back to her.

 

[Valkyrjaj]

I don't really support calling women whore/sluts but this is genueinely nasty behavior and I approve.
Normal people who cared for someone don't just add 5 people the day after the breakup. They mourn for themselves and their partner (unless it was abusive but it wasn't in this case) and build themselves up again.
I have friends that do add dudes after breaking up (only if they werent in the wrong like they got cheated on etc, or else I dump them, I'm not friends with bad people) but usually it's because they want to make they guy jealous.

But looking at the convo,
What the hell is she talking about.
It's literally the most normal thing to ask abt a different guy
So defensive for nothing. Im mad js looking at it
U dodged a bullet bro don't go back to her.

She was mentally checking out of the relationship months before of the breakup. And basically grieved the relationship in silence. But she gave me signs and hints that she wanted out. But she was too much of a pussy to dump me (not strong enough to do it in her own words. And i was too stupid to stay despite the signs bc i didnt wanted to lose her (i was already losing her months ago)

You gotta understand the moment this exchange happened, i wasnt the same person in her head. So i kind of understand her logic, but im not justifying it of course. She even hsd the guts to tell me 2 years later "who tf are you". Imagine saying that to your bf of 2 years jfl.

And yes, if shes defensive and dodging its bc shes mad she fucked up and got caught. Nobody whos doing none wrong gets angry at this

Also many women leave the relationship mentally months before they actually leave

Men are just too stupid. Now i know, at the first signs, the next one shes getting dumped.

 

[Zaddy000]

She was mentally checking out of the relationship months before of the breakup. And basically grieved the relationship in silence. But she gave me signs and hints that she wanted out. But she was too much of a pussy to dump me (not strong enough to do it in her own words. And i was too stupid to stay despite the signs bc i didnt wanted to lose her (i was already losing her months ago)

You gotta understand the moment this exchange happened, i wasnt the same person in her head. So i kind of understand her logic, but im not justifying it of course. She even hsd the guts to tell me 2 years later "who tf are you". Imagine saying that to your bf of 2 years jfl.

And yes, if shes defensive and dodging its bc shes mad she fucked up and got caught. Nobody whos doing none wrong gets angry at this

Also many women leave the relationship mentally months before they actually leave

Men are just too stupid. Now i know, at the first signs, the next one shes getting dumped.

Hmm I sympathize with you and I agree, but be sure to recognize the difference between losing interest and the honeymoon phase coming to an end.
In this case it was defienetly her mentally checking out with her sneakiness and instability but many true loving relationships are boring. They do not have that "spark" they had at first. This isn't bad or losing interest but it's rather becoming comfortable while still appreciating the other person. Who you can tolerate this daily life with, is your soulmate most likely.

 

[Valkyrjaj]

Hmm I sympathize with you and I agree, but be sure to recognize the difference between losing interest and the honeymoon phase coming to an end.
In this case it was defienetly her mentally checking out with her sneakiness and instability but many true loving relationships are boring. They do not have that "spark" they had at first. This isn't bad or losing interest but it's rather becoming comfortable while still appreciating the other person. Who you can tolerate this daily life with, is your soulmate most likely.

This wasnt the honeymoon phase being over. This was her being over the relationship while being in the relationship. If the woman doenst recognize her bf as her bf anymore i think the relationship is over. Wich is what happened to me.

We got together on august 2024. And our honeymoon phase ended i would say on august/september 2025. And yes it became quite boring. But i was ok with her presence alone. The problem is that if the excitement is gone and then you ads fights to it constantly well you have a recipe for disaster. It was over