why the FUCK are we still fearmongering testosterone

[genio]

its so studied
its so easy to mitigate side effects
its so simple to run a cycle of

unless youre taking fucking 3 grams of testosterone nothing will happen son
if you’re not retarded (which is not a high bar), testosterone is the easiest thing to run with minimal research

“but muh natural testosterone production” n***a js pct if youre so scared even though pct is unideal and cruising for the rest of your life is much better

 

[1894]

Who is fear mongering it ? Gotta be a millennial or something

 

[genio]

Who is fear mongering it ? Gotta be a millennial or something

16 year olds who know jack shit about pharmacology

 

[Ghost Of Sparta]

i don’t get the PCT copers

one someone feels life on 500 test nobody ever wants to go back

 

[genio]

i don’t get the PCT copers

one someone feels life on 500 test nobody ever wants to go back

js cruise at 100mg it preserves most gains anyways

 

[Askinov]

AGREED BRO

 

[genio]

AGREED BRO

500 hcg eod and forget

 

[applecinnamon]

its so studied
its so easy to mitigate side effects
its so simple to run a cycle of

unless youre taking fucking 3 grams of testosterone nothing will happen son
if you’re not retarded (which is not a high bar), testosterone is the easiest thing to run with minimal research

“but muh natural testosterone production” n***a js pct if youre so scared even though pct is unideal and cruising for the rest of your life is much better

Probably because there are still some people who get messed up on this shit
People end up relying on it instead of using it as an aide; you still need to be asking & finding out why you arent making enough of these hormones yourself, naturally. Come on, who do you even know that does this?

 

[Perceval]

literallly take hmg enclo hcg and u can have kids

bioidentical comp

literally trt for life

 

[daolordofbonesmashing]

we're fearmongering bc there are 15 yos on the site who'll order it from taobao - *if* you use it right doesnt mean shit when you're surrounded by retards

 

[genio]

we're fearmongering bc there are 15 yos on the site who'll order it from taobao - *if* you use it right doesnt mean shit when you're surrounded by retards

there is enough information out there to use it correctly and enough people out there that arent retarded
its fucking testosterone n***a it requires the most minimal research
when i say fearmongering i mean fearmongering as in “dont use it itll fuck you up for life”
if youre gonna tell a r****d not to use it because theyre uneducated then go ahead but there’s a difference between “understand the risks, there is blah blah, etc.” and “it’ll fucking destroy your balls and natural production!”

 

[dimorph.ic]

i don’t get the PCT copers

one someone feels life on 500 test nobody ever wants to go back

500? Thats before breakfast son

 

[dimorph.ic]

there is enough information out there to use it correctly and enough people out there that arent retarded
its fucking testosterone n***a it requires the most minimal research
when i say fearmongering i mean fearmongering as in “dont use it itll fuck you up for life”
if youre gonna tell a r****d not to use it because theyre uneducated then go ahead but there’s a difference between “understand the risks, there is blah blah, etc.” and “it’ll fucking destroy your balls and natural production!”

I’ll destroy your balls n***a

 

[teramogger42]

its so studied
its so easy to mitigate side effects
its so simple to run a cycle of

unless youre taking fucking 3 grams of testosterone nothing will happen son
if you’re not retarded (which is not a high bar), testosterone is the easiest thing to run with minimal research

“but muh natural testosterone production” n***a js pct if youre so scared even though pct is unideal and cruising for the rest of your life is much better

Trying to have kids w my htn genetics

 

[ᴬᵈᵃᵐ]

Trying to have kids w my htn genetics

Hcg hmg and pcting exist

 

[teramogger42]

Ig bro but I have high test already and won't risk early growth plate closure (ai is for retards brain > 1 inch of height)

Hcg hmg and pcting exist

 

[dimorph.ic]

Ig bro but I have high test already and won't risk early growth plate closure (ai is for retards brain > 1 inch of height)

Brootal

 

[ᴬᵈᵃᵐ]

Ig bro but I have high test already and won't risk early growth plate closure (ai is for retards brain > 1 inch of height)

High test and super physiological levels are completely different and ai won’t make you stupid it’s the reduced estrogen that does but when your on test your estrogen is higher meaning that if you take ai it will be in the healthy ranges

 

[teramogger42]

Wouldn't you have to take estrogen too? Most estrogen comes from testosterone through aromatization. So an AI would stop your estrogen.

 

[ᴬᵈᵃᵐ]

Wouldn't you have to take estrogen too? Most estrogen comes from testosterone through aromatization. So an AI would stop your estrogen.

Nah When you take test your estrogen raises a ai doesn’t crash it fully unless you dose it so it does

 

[genio]

Ig bro but I have high test already and won't risk early growth plate closure (ai is for retards brain > 1 inch of height)

“ai is for retards brain”

 

[genio]

Wouldn't you have to take estrogen too? Most estrogen comes from testosterone through aromatization. So an AI would stop your estrogen.

n***a what is this im fucking caging
@trvecel @Dragon @emeraldpill

 

[Dragon]

Wouldn't you have to take estrogen too? Most estrogen comes from testosterone through aromatization. So an AI would stop your estrogen.

n***a the whole point of an ai is to stop excess estrogen why would we introduce it again

 

[genio]

n***a the whole point of an ai is to stop excess estrogen why would we introduce it again

im actually dying
n*****s have no idea about shit
they js spew random nonsense

 

[jony🖤bp]

its so studied
its so easy to mitigate side effects
its so simple to run a cycle of

unless youre taking fucking 3 grams of testosterone nothing will happen son
if you’re not retarded (which is not a high bar), testosterone is the easiest thing to run with minimal research

“but muh natural testosterone production” n***a js pct if youre so scared even though pct is unideal and cruising for the rest of your life is much better

Facts

 

[teramogger42]

n***a the whole point of an ai is to stop excess estrogen why would we introduce it again

Because brain development and hormone balance nupid stigga

 

[genio]

Because brain development and hormone balance nupid stigga

Then you wouldnt take the AI at all in that case
Btw DHED would be best choice for brain development while preserving the effects of low e2 on the epiphyseal plates, not just fucking adding estrogen again which would be counterproductive to the whole point of nuking e2
And hormone balance is cope

 

[teramogger42]

1. Control estrogen amounts for actual bone density, heart health, etc. Using an AI and supplementing estrogen will lead to controlled amounts. You don't want nothing.

2. Hormone balance is absolutely essential. Hormones are signals. You want signals to work.

 

[HerculesJr.]

how much test do i take to the point where it wont make me lose hair early on

 

[dior]

js cruise at 100mg it preserves most gains anyways

100mg lowk nothing, once u start surfing on 200 youll understand little one

 

[genio]

how much test do i take to the point where it wont make me lose hair early on

Js take dut n***a

 

[genio]

100mg lowk nothing, once u start surfing on 200 youll understand little one

Maybe when older

 

[genio]

1. Control estrogen amounts for actual bone density, heart health, etc. Using an AI and supplementing estrogen will lead to controlled amounts. You don't want nothing.

2. Hormone balance is absolutely essential. Hormones are signals. You want signals to work.

@trvecel @Dragon @emeraldpill
“Yo bro take estrogen to counteract the thing youre taking that’s meant to control your estrogen”

 

[polgrev]

16 year olds who know jack shit about pharmacology

-15 year old

 

[genio]

-15 year old

Im 12

 

[genio]

-15 year old

Also that was targeted towards a specific stupid n****r

 

[larpgod]

500 hcg eod and forget

too high 500 a week is okay

 

[genio]

too high 500 a week is okay

500 eod was best results in a study

 

[polgrev]

How would I know this information n***a

Also that was targeted towards a specific stupid n****r

 

[genio]

How would I know this information n***a

Those who know

 

[teramogger42]

@trvecel @Dragon @emeraldpill
“Yo bro take estrogen to counteract the thing youre taking that’s meant to

Jfl
1. Testosterone becomes estrogen (aromatization)
2. Higher testosterone leads to higher estrogen
3. High estrogen is bad
4. Crucial -- low estrogen is bad too
5. Therefore, the ideal solution would be to supplement estrogen with an ai (to prevent too low estrogen and too high).

Nuance is a thing, you know.

 

[ᴬᵈᵃᵐ]

Jfl
1. Testosterone becomes estrogen (aromatization)
2. Higher testosterone leads to higher estrogen
3. High estrogen is bad
4. Crucial -- low estrogen is bad too
5. Therefore, the ideal solution would be to supplement estrogen with an ai (to prevent too low estrogen and too high).

Nuance is a thing, you know.

No bro you just don’t take that high a dose of ai and adjust on blood work till it’s perfect

 

[genio]

Jfl
1. Testosterone becomes estrogen (aromatization)
2. Higher testosterone leads to higher estrogen
3. High estrogen is bad
4. Crucial -- low estrogen is bad too
5. Therefore, the ideal solution would be to supplement estrogen with an ai (to prevent too low estrogen and too high).

Nuance is a thing, you know.

Low estrogen is bad if youre not taking properly mitigating side effects
The NUANCE is that we’re talking puberty where low e2 will keep your epiphyseal plates open longer
The ideal solution is to just take the right amount of AI in the first place n***a
Wtf are you taking estrogen for when you can just lower the AI

 

[kissthewallG]

its so studied
its so easy to mitigate side effects
its so simple to run a cycle of

unless youre taking fucking 3 grams of testosterone nothing will happen son
if you’re not retarded (which is not a high bar), testosterone is the easiest thing to run with minimal research

“but muh natural testosterone production” n***a js pct if youre so scared even though pct is unideal and cruising for the rest of your life is much better

if u have good natural levels i don't see a point to go and start pinning because u might not go back to what u had.
if it's just for gains thn it's another topic, just for feeling better if u are high enough no point to inject that fucking shit.

 

[genio]

if u have good natural levels i don't see a point to go and start pinning because u might not go back to what u had.
if it's just for gains thn it's another topic, just for feeling better if u are high enough no point to inject that fucking shit.

n***a the average test is like 450
The optimal human male should be 1000+ which is rare as shit naturally due to modern diets and lifestyles
Your statement applies to the top 1% of people
Then it also declines as you age so even more of a reason

 

[kissthewallG]

n***a the average test is like 450
The optimal human male should be 1000+ which is rare as shit naturally due to modern diets and lifestyles
Your statement applies to the top 1% of people
Then it also declines as you age so even more of a reason

yeah but most of this forum in their 20-s , i don't think they suffer from low test in that age would be shit to go that young. high chance that they would fuck up all shit and end up like a n*****s.

 

[Ghost Of Sparta]

yeah but most of this forum in their 20-s , i don't think they suffer from low test in that age would be shit to go that young. high chance that they would fuck up all shit and end up like a n*****s.

most of this forum is not in their 20s jfl

and no matter what high test is better and easily managed

 

[kissthewallG]

Pinning test without blood works and being in control is mega shit.