Hypothesis Women have mostly followed natural selection without a choice until industrial revolution

[GlorytoLord]

Spoiler: Source warning

The sources used for this analysis will be spoken around Belgian history (Europe), but its events are approximately similar to other nations'

Context

Some people have the assumption that humans select their partners by natural selection since the beginning of their existence. Women were pushed to select the strongest man, the one who would be best fit to provide goods, security, shelter. There were always excess men due to intraspecific competition.

Women are innately programmed to seek the best man they can get. Reproduction costs them 9 months to carry out, while the man can plant his seeds to as many women as possible.
In the past, women were essentially tied to the home. They are to take care of household tasks and raise the children while tge man goes out to work.

It is only on April 30 1958 that the wife gets economic rights to managing her own properties without the husband's necessary approval.¹

The more the woman can own on her own without marriage, the less reason she has to marry. This is evident after the industrial revolution where women are called and forced to join the workforce to afford living costs with their families.

They eventually get more economic autonomy, and they are no longer subject to picking a financial provider.

Nowadays, sexual selection
The gender pay gap (9,8%) is almost non-existent between the two genders in Belgium.

However, it is known that these days women outearn men:

Women in Belgium significantly outperform men in higher education attainment, with 60.3% of women aged 25–34 holding a tertiary education diploma compared to just 45.2% of men. [] (https://statbel.fgov.be/en/themes/work-training/training-and-education/level-education)

A total of 117,500 men and 148,700 women attended higher education institutions in Belgium during the academic year 2021/22 academic year, Statista reports. [](https://erudera.com/news/women-outnumber-men-at-european-universities-but-remain-less-represented-in-labor-market/)

With this in mind, women have opportunity to date more out of likeness and pleasure, rather than practical providence.

Their hypergamy kicks in. They want the best looking-man, while also looking for emotional qualities (open-minded, kind, supportive).
This is why divorces are at all all time high. Society has normalised doing what you feel like doing, not staying loyal nor sacrifice.

70% divorces rate in Belgium, 70!!
A society where feelings and self-satisfaction matter more than keeping unity.

Interpretation
Is it really a bad thing that women are hypergamous? Would you rather her settle down for her looksmatch or lower and then pity marry you in the end? How do you know if she really loves you, if not for hypergamy.

Hypergamy is good in moderation. Everyone is always looking for their dream partner. It is a tool, you have the choice to be humble or abuse it.It is neither good or bad.

Plausible solutions
• Disengage in pornographic content. It warps standards for how an attractive body is supposed to look like. For men as for women. (Video, books...)

• Men stop their desperation: desperate normie dates an obese woman -> obese woman think she's better than average. Obese woman manages until she seeks Chad, chad accepts -> Self-perception of a high value stacy -> ego boost --> feels offended her looksmatch is asking her out.

• Know who you're trying to court: look for a woman you like even without makeup, unless you don't mind but dont be shocked if she looks like a completely different person.
• Looking outside busy cities for a partner if it's a saturated market.
• Dating apps not advised
• Seek the Bible, it gives you a good idea for the type of partner you should be looking for: Proverbs 31:10–31

Conclusion
Hypergamy is a natural tool since the beginning of the animal kingdom. With time and modernisation, it adapts. Keeping reasonable standards help the balance.

 

[trenghost]

its only bad when its too much ifykwim

 

[bledilletante]

the bible has nothing to do with this essentially it is an addendum. Since hypergamy is a natural co-occurence that comes hand in hand with pregnancy being a female expirience alongsides the presence of ovaries + intraspecific competition, hence this is water; moids would do the same were they in the same shoes. Divorce rates are very subjective here and do not take into consideration abuse nor any other factors just the ones that would benefit the point being made by op. Moids will seek out girls the same way girls do with moids, and personality is showcased to be even less at play in their case, rather than initial percieved attractiveness. What does unity even stand for, what does it matter. Unity should not be a vector by which sucessfulness is measured since mariages can be miserable and not only on the foids part. Self satisfaction is a shallow misunderstanding that does not delve into the topic further. The idea of sacrifice is frankly laughable, and stands for nothing else than a statistic that is being used as backing for this argument. This is just taking some talking points thrown across everywhere and taking them for gospel. The earning gap is significant if we take a yearly earning of a wageslave foid, and higher education does Not guarantee higher earnings https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegepayoff2021/#resources, this is also vague on purpose and does not elaborate on the sort of degree earned hence financial return. None of this goes against the point men cannot participate higher education attainment they simply chose to not do so or are unable to do so. The initial point would indicate women needing a marriage for money as a "sought after" occurence and does not go in hand with the conclusion. Otherwise still ok water

 

[GlorytoLord]

its only bad when its too much ifykwim

That's right. Anybody can have standards but a 5'2 female shouldn't be asking for 6 foot minimum.

No matter how bad the sphere seems don't forget there are good women out there. Optimise your search, open your horizons. Engulfing misogyny doesn't help, only worsens mental health. Adapt and overcome.

 

[GlorytoLord]

the bible has nothing to do with this essentially it is an addendum. Since hypergamy is a natural co-occurence that comes hand in hand with pregnancy being a female expirience alongsides the presence of ovaries + intraspecific competition, hence this is water; moids would do the same were they in the same shoes. Divorce rates are very subjective here and do not take into consideration abuse nor any other factors just the ones that would benefit the point being made by op. Moids will seek out girls the same way girls do with moids, and personality is showcased to be even less at play in their case, rather than initial percieved attractiveness. What does unity even stand for, what does it matter. Unity should not be a vector by which sucessfulness is measured since mariages can be miserable and not only on the foids part. Self satisfaction is a shallow misunderstanding that does not delve into the topic further. The idea of sacrifice is frankly laughable, and stands for nothing else than a statistic that is being used as backing for this argument. This is just taking some talking points thrown across everywhere and taking them for gospel. The earning gap is significant if we take a yearly earning of a wageslave foid, and higher education does Not guarantee higher earnings https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegepayoff2021/#resources, this is also vague on purpose and does not elaborate on the sort of degree earned hence financial return. None of this goes against the point men cannot participate higher education attainment they simply chose to not do so or are unable to do so. The initial point would indicate women needing a marriage for money as a "sought after" occurence and does not go in hand with the conclusion. Otherwise still ok water

I'm a Christian, so I like spreading the word, it can help those who want it, I'm not forcing it

Your constructive criticism is noted, thanks

 

[TFC]

the bible has nothing to do with this essentially it is an addendum. Since hypergamy is a natural co-occurence that comes hand in hand with pregnancy being a female expirience alongsides the presence of ovaries + intraspecific competition, hence this is water; moids would do the same were they in the same shoes. Divorce rates are very subjective here and do not take into consideration abuse nor any other factors just the ones that would benefit the point being made by op. Moids will seek out girls the same way girls do with moids, and personality is showcased to be even less at play in their case, rather than initial percieved attractiveness. What does unity even stand for, what does it matter. Unity should not be a vector by which sucessfulness is measured since mariages can be miserable and not only on the foids part. Self satisfaction is a shallow misunderstanding that does not delve into the topic further. The idea of sacrifice is frankly laughable, and stands for nothing else than a statistic that is being used as backing for this argument. This is just taking some talking points thrown across everywhere and taking them for gospel. The earning gap is significant if we take a yearly earning of a wageslave foid, and higher education does Not guarantee higher earnings https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegepayoff2021/#resources, this is also vague on purpose and does not elaborate on the sort of degree earned hence financial return. None of this goes against the point men cannot participate higher education attainment they simply chose to not do so or are unable to do so. The initial point would indicate women needing a marriage for money as a "sought after" occurence and does not go in hand with the conclusion. Otherwise still ok water

Lesbians have the highest abuse rates and divorce rates. While gays have the lowest. So no, men would not do the same in a similar situation.
That claim is wrong.