writing parsers is extremely difficult, almost comparable to cryptography

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@rand anon @Superior

 

[rand anon]

Ur giving me ptsd flashbacks to a compilers class I took. Ended up dropping it cause I didn’t hve the motivation to do the work. Also missed out on asking out one squishy girl in the class that was hitting on me, cause of PSL autism. Rand has made so many mistakes maynnn

 

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Ur giving me ptsd flashbacks to a compilers class I took.

Compilers are even extra because Turing completeness and machine code generation on top of extremely brutal parsing

Ended up dropping it cause I didn’t hve the motivation to do the work. Also missed out on asking out one squishy girl in the class that was hitting on me, cause of PSL autism. Rand has made so many mistakes maynnn

its okay bro, can focus on capitalizing the next time
I did this just recently

 

[rand anon]

Compilers are even extra because Turing completeness and machine code generation on top of extremely brutal parsing

Yeah it was a lot. Rly wish I had the drive and went through the class, was actually pretty interesting while I was paying attention to it. Especially the different ways u can optimize them

its okay bro, can focus on capitalizing the next time
I did this just recently

most likely no next times for this unc unfortunately. I’m done with college. Only way to meet girls is through dating apps, and I’m too awkward to go on a date from the get go. No social circle so can’t rly have a friends to relationship thing/slow burn thing, so yeah it’s jobaaa

 

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Yeah it was a lot. Rly wish I had the drive and went through the class, was actually pretty interesting while I was paying attention to it. Especially the different ways u can optimize them

most likely no next times for this unc unfortunately. I’m done with college. Only way to meet girls is through dating apps, and I’m too awkward to go on a date from the get go. No social circle so can’t rly have a friends to relationship thing/slow burn thing, so yeah it’s jobaaa

social circle seems to be the way
clubs
volunteer work maybe
religion probably isn't your thing but thats a way


Also, going back to the compiler class, it's really annoying that generic CS classes engrain writing adhoc parsers and adhoc inputs into you from the start. Sure it's good for "learning" but pretty much every program made in those classes can be brutally abused

 

[icnone]

n***a just use antlr to autogenerate your parser

 

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n***a just use antlr to autogenerate your parser

autogenerating helps
but you still need other steps for safety

 

[icnone]

autogenerating helps
but you still need other steps for safety

what other steps

 

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what other steps

well you must use inputs for things

 

[icnone]

well you must use inputs for things

wdym

 

[Deleted Member 126149]

wdym

I'm not sure. Let me think it out better and get back to you

 

[Dragon]

@rand anon @Superior

have you build a regex engine before? it is simillar

 

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wdym

My reasoning for this is that antlr seems to focus on syntax (I could be wrong)
When there is typically always context required in what you are parsing and how you are using it
There are many formats that require more defensive parsers

 

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have you build a regex engine before? it is simillar

no
but yes regex is parsing

 

[icnone]

My reasoning for this is that antlr seems to focus on syntax (I could be wrong)
When there is typically always context required in what you are parsing and how you are using it
There are many formats that require more defensive parsers

which is why you split your compiler into multiple stages to handle those more complex stages
unless you need to parse a context sensitive language for some reason, at which point what are you doing?

 

[rand anon]

social circle seems to be the way
clubs

Don’t rly hve any of that in my small town/city, gotta drive like 30min for allat

volunteer work maybe

Yeah guess I could try that

religion probably isn't your thing but thats a way

Yeah def not lol, not at all religious. Even if I was I don’t want a paaajeeeetaaaa jfl

maybe I could ldsmaxx for a Mormon wifey

Also, going back to the compiler class, it's really annoying that generic CS classes engrain writing adhoc parsers and adhoc inputs into you from the start. Sure it's good for "learning" but pretty much every program made in those classes can be brutally abused

I mean the whole point of those classes are to teach u the fundamentals though. And a lot of them are a part of a series, it’s usually the intro classes that are like that

 

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Don’t rly hve any of that in my small town/city, gotta drive like 30min for allat

Yeah guess I could try that

Yeah def not lol, not at all religious. Even if I was I don’t want a paaajeeeetaaaa jfl

maybe I could ldsmaxx for a Mormon wifey

mormon might be a method ngl
some of them are hoes doe

I mean the whole point of those classes are to teach u the fundamentals though. And a lot of them are a part of a series, it’s usually the intro classes that are like that

I get that and all but it still is a bad habit icl
programs are fundamentally about inputs for the most part
and you're never taught how to handle inputs properly
I'm not saying it should be the forefront but just saying "input is expected to be trusted" isn't really enough to emphasize how brutal untrusted inputs can be

 

[rand anon]

mormon might be a method ngl
some of them are hoes doe

Rly? So jobbaaa mayn

I get that and all but it still is a bad habit icl
programs are fundamentally about inputs for the most part
and you're never taught how to handle inputs properly
I'm not saying it should be the forefront but just saying "input is expected to be trusted" isn't really enough to emphasize how brutal untrusted inputs can be

Idk bro, input checking just seems like a different topic. I’d take away too much time if they covered all the ways a program could break, for an intro class. And it isn’t like they completely ignore it, they’ll usually make sure ur programs pass basic tests

 

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Rly? So jobbaaa mayn

at least i think so
some probably surely still follow it like everything
are you positive there is zero circles could get yourself into?

Idk bro, input checking just seems like a different topic. I’d take away too much time if they covered all the ways a program could break, for an intro class. And it isn’t like they completely ignore it, they’ll usually make sure ur programs pass basic tests

For an intro class yes
But it isn't just about all ways a program can break its how you can write programs to prevent them from breaking in the first place
And yeah they make sure they pass tests but thats only trusted inputs for basic functionality

 

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at least i think so
some probably surely still follow it like everything

I had a Mormon housemate for a few months, dude was hella chill

are you positive there is zero circles could get yourself into?

Most people from my area know each through school, being neighbors, or like through work. I lived in like a boonies part of town, so never rly had neighbors with kids my age, the few friends I had from school either moved away or we just completely lost touch. And I’m NEET rn, so no work friends ofc. So yeah, finding something part time is the only thing I can think of that’d help

For an intro class yes
But it isn't just about all ways a program can break its how you can write programs to prevent them from breaking in the first place
And yeah they make sure they pass tests but thats only trusted inputs for basic functionality

Well I get what ur saying, but that’s why they’re intro classes bro. The more advanced ones will cover all that

 

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I had a Mormon housemate for a few months, dude was hella chill

Most people from my area know each through school, being neighbors, or like through work. I lived in like a boonies part of town, so never rly had neighbors with kids my age, the few friends I had from school either moved away or we just completely lost touch. And I’m NEET rn, so no work friends ofc. So yeah, finding something part time is the only thing I can think of that’d help

what about farmers markets? Underrated for nt max
And yeah part time might be a good idea

 

[rand anon]

what about farmers markets? Underrated for nt max
And yeah part time might be a good idea

We hve one downtown every saturday morning

What would I do there alone though, cold approach?

 

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We hve one downtown every saturday morning

What would I do there alone though, cold approach?

make friends with guys tbh or talk with people from the stands

 

[rand anon]

make friends with guys tbh or

I feel like I’d hve better chances of getting a number than getting an actual guy friend from a farmers market though lol, in other words, very slim odds

Like wouldn’t u say the farmers market demo tends to be single women, women in groups, or couples, or families? The few times I went I rarely saw guys my age alone, don’t think I’ve ever even seen a group of guys, atleast guys my age, at one

talk with people from the stands

U mean like the people working at the stalls? Ig I could do that, they’re usually old people though lol

 

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I feel like I’d hve better chances of getting a number than getting an actual guy friend from a farmers market though lol, in other words, very slim odds

interesting

Like wouldn’t u say the farmers market demo tends to be single women, women in groups, or couples, or families? The few times I went I rarely saw guys my age alone, don’t think I’ve ever even seen a group of guys, atleast guys my age, at one

Yeah fair enough. Farmers market just seems like great social max
Maybe bowling? Or chess?
Bowling probably ideal

U mean like the people working at the stalls? Ig I could do that, they’re usually old people though lol

Connections are connections and socialization etc
Perhaps they can hook you up

 

[rand anon]

interesting

Y

Yeah fair enough. Farmers market just seems like great social max

Yeah I mean ig I could try practicing social skills there

Maybe bowling? Or chess?
Bowling probably ideal

Our bowling alley closed last yr unfortunately, and idk anything about chess

Connections are connections and socialization etc
Perhaps they can hook you up

I think my granddaughter would LOVEEE to date a 5’3 deathnic NEET with no friends

Said no oldhead ever bhaiii idk, couldn’t see that ever happening, well if larp my age maybe, but I don’t wanna lie

 

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Y

Idk I always see dudes there

Yeah I mean ig I could try practicing social skills there

Definitely worth it

Our bowling alley closed last yr unfortunately, and idk anything about chess

Damn. Are there any even close the area?

I think my granddaughter would LOVEEE to date a 5’3 deathnic NEET with no friends

Said no oldhead ever bhaiii idk, couldn’t see that ever happening, well if larp my age maybe, but I don’t wanna lie

Brutal. I guess still connections are connections and social interactions at the very least

 

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Idk I always see dudes there

Perhaps this unc is just out of date when it comes to trends. I will go next week and report back

Definitely worth it

Damn. Are there any even close the area?

The next city away, so again like a half hour drive

Brutal.

Frfr maynnTFL till my casket drop

I guess still connections are connections and social interactions at the very least

I suppose I suppose

I appreciate our convos bhaii