Guide You’ve Been Training Your Masseter Wrong — Here’s Why Your Face Looks Bloated

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A,B,C IS MASSETER MUSCLE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SAME EXCEPT MASSETER MUSCLE.
SO WHY DO THEY LOOK SO DIFFERENT?

It's simple, it has to do with the way their masseter muscles are trained.

A has most aesthetic one but his masseter size is too big to the point of being unaesthetic, you don't want that big of a masseter, it looks too bulky and unaesthetic.
B has most unaesthetic one due to the points we will talk about below...
C just doesn't train masseter muscle

the reason you get bloating is because deep part of masseter muscle gets hypertrophied which is located under cheekbone

bulky deep part of masseter muscle is very unaesthetic and gives rounder look

When the deep fibers of the masseter hypertrophy excessively, they create a round, bloated contour under the zygomatic region

this is how you activate part of the masseter closest mandible dominantly. you can try it yourself.

Clench and touch the masseter muscle, you'll see the bulge in the upper part, in the middle as well as lower part of the Masseter. You need to focus on molars and try to clench in a way that part of the masseter muscle closest to your mandible pops out significantly more than higher up. It's hard at first as it requires mind muscle connection.

This needs to become a habit and way you eat any kind of food.

IM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESIONAL, THIS IS JUST A THEORY OF MINE AFTER SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

oh i can edit replies?

 

[collagen]

if it gets too big lowk just get botox

 

[collagen]

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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A,B,C IS MASSETER MUSCLE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SAME EXCEPT MASSETER MUSCLE.
SO WHY DO THEY LOOK SO DIFFERENT?

It's simple, it has to do with the way their masseter muscles are trained.

A has most aesthetic one but his masseter size is too big to the point of being unaesthetic, you don't want that big of a masseter, it looks too bulky and unaesthetic.
B has most unaesthetic one due to the points we will talk about below...
C just doesn't train masseter muscle

the reason you get bloating is because deep part of masseter muscle gets hypertrophied which is located under cheekbone
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bulky deep part of masseter muscle is very unaesthetic and gives rounder look

When the deep fibers of the masseter hypertrophy excessively, they create a round, bloated contour under the zygomatic region

this is how you activate part of the masseter closest mandible dominantly. you can try it yourself.

Clench and touch the masseter muscle, you'll see the bulge in the upper part, in the middle as well as lower part of the Masseter. You need to focus on molars and try to clench in a way that part of the masseter muscle closest to your mandible pops out significantly more than higher up. It's hard at first as it requires mind muscle connection.

This needs to become a habit and way you eat any kind of food.

IM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESIONAL, THIS IS JUST A THEORY OF MINE AFTER SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH

ts overly gemmy twin.

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

ts overly gemmy twin.

i agree. well its too late now

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

Bump

 

[Luca_.]

IM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESIONAL, THIS IS JUST A THEORY OF MINE AFTER SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH

clearly you didn’t do enough research. You can’t train your masseter muscle

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

clearly you didn’t do enough research. You can’t train your masseter muscle

Quite possibly the worst take I’ve heard

 

[Hyaluronic]

Bodybuilders with years of research are yet to see truly significant differences between focusing on different fibers of the muscle. This might work but in 99% of cases it depends on your gonial, masseter setness and shape, overall facial structure, bloat/fat and other features

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

Bodybuilders with years of research are yet to see truly significant differences between focusing on different fibers of the muscle. This might work but in 99% of cases it depends on your gonial, masseter setness and shape, overall facial structure, bloat/fat and other features

Bodybuilders always say to focus on the muscle though, there are tons of research about mind muscle connection and how it affects hypertrophy
Think of it like lat pulldowns: your grip on the bar changes which muscles engage more. In the same way, the way your teeth make contact determines whether the superficial or the deep portion of the masseter is activated.

Maybe I could’ve worded it better but i hope you get the point

 

[Hyaluronic]

Bodybuilders always say to focus on the muscle though, there are tons of research about mind muscle connection and how it affects hypertrophy
Think of it like lat pulldowns: your grip on the bar changes which muscles engage more. In the same way, the way your teeth make contact determines whether the superficial or the deep portion of the masseter is activated.

Maybe I could’ve worded it better but i hope you get the point

The “mind muscle connection” is more so a beginner thing in order to understand the technique better. A lot of pros like to engage in that too because it legit feels amazing. However, it has nothing to do with focusing on specific parts of one muscle, it’s more so feeling the muscle above other muscles. Bodybuilders do focus on different heads of the muscle but that barely brings any differences unless different heads perform completely different functions (think of delts)

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

The “mind muscle connection” is more so a beginner thing in order to understand the technique better. A lot of pros like to engage in that too because it legit feels amazing. However, it has nothing to do with focusing on specific parts of one muscle, it’s more so feeling the muscle above other muscles. Bodybuilders do focus on different heads of the muscle but that barely brings any differences unless different heads perform completely different functions (think of delts)

That’s not the point of this thread though. It’s not about how mind muscle connection improves hypertrophy, its about how your teeth make contact and which part of the muscle it engages

 

[Hyaluronic]

That’s not the point of this thread though. It’s not about how mind muscle connection improves hypertrophy, its about how your teeth make contact and which part of the muscle it engages

Yes that’s literally what I said. You brought up mind muscle, I explained to you why it relates to a completely different topic than engaging different parts of the muscle

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

Yes that’s literally what I said. You brought up mind muscle, I explained to you why it relates to a completely different topic than engaging different parts of the muscle

Simply focusing on a different muscle isn’t enough when the movement itself relies on a completely different set of muscles. But you can bias an activation for example, you can emphasize the lats more during a pulldown.

 

[Hyaluronic]

Simply focusing on a different muscle isn’t enough when the movement itself relies on a completely different set of muscles. But you can bias an activation for example, you can emphasize the lats more during a pulldown.

I might have missed something, are you referring to biasing different muscles or muscle fibers. Because of course you can bias a muscle in the movement depending on how you can do it (although mind muscle won’t help with too much) but you can’t bias different fibers of the same muscle and usually even bias of a different head won’t do much

 

[Hyaluronic]

Simply focusing on a different muscle isn’t enough when the movement itself relies on a completely different set of muscles. But you can bias an activation for example, you can emphasize the lats more during a pulldown.

Your method makes sense in the same way that mewing will promote ccw after 16 or so. Yes it could work but it’s highly unlikely, and while mewing doesn’t do anything if done correctly, growing genetically shitty masseters thinking you won’t get bloated cuz of the way you do it will nuke your attractiveness and you will have to spend hundreds and thousands on botox

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

Your method makes sense in the same way that mewing will promote ccw after 16 or so. Yes it could work but it’s highly unlikely, and while mewing doesn’t do anything if done correctly, growing genetically shitty masseters thinking you won’t get bloated cuz of the way you do it will nuke your attractiveness and you will have to spend hundreds and thousands on botox

you can very easily test if you'd benefit from working out masseter. Just clench and see where your masseter insertions are. though in my experience there's no such thing as shitty masseter insertion as it always attaches on the same bone in almost all individuals. only variation in so called "masseter insertion" is the bone itself. unless you are severely deformed, I don't think you have to worry about this

I might have missed something, are you referring to biasing different muscles or muscle fibers. Because of course you can bias a muscle in the movement depending on how you can do it (although mind muscle won’t help with too much) but you can’t bias different fibers of the same muscle and usually even bias of a different head won’t do much

Masseter is one muscle, which has deep and superficial part. yes you can work different muscle fiber of the same muscle. i'll give you an example:
deltoid muscle has three fibers: Anterior fibers → flex and medially rotate arm, Lateral fibers → abduct arm
Posterior fibers- extend and externally rotate arm

 

[Hyaluronic]

you can very easily test if you'd benefit from working out masseter. Just clench and see where your masseter insertions are. though in my experience there's no such thing as shitty masseter insertion as it always attaches on the same bone in almost all individuals. only variation in so called "masseter insertion" is the bone itself. unless you are severely deformed, I don't think you have to worry about this

Masseter is one muscle, which has deep and superficial part. yes you can work different muscle fiber of the same muscle. i'll give you an example:
deltoid muscle has three fibers: Anterior fibers → flex and medially rotate arm, Lateral fibers → abduct arm
Posterior fibers- extend and externally rotate arm

I literally mentioned deltoids multiple times as the example where it actually matters because they perform completely different functions. Chewing with muh different teeth or whatever won’t make much difference. As for the knowing masseter genetics part you’re kinda correct, although flexing it changes the shape so it won’t look exactly like it would if hyperthrofied

 

[GreyAnchorLeywin]

I literally mentioned deltoids multiple times as the example where it actually matters because they perform completely different functions. Chewing with muh different teeth or whatever won’t make much difference. As for the knowing masseter genetics part you’re kinda correct, although flexing it changes the shape so it won’t look exactly like it would if hyperthrofied

you've never mentioned it before at least to me. what are you talking about?
well it doesn't look like I can say anything further to convince you

unless different heads perform completely different functions (think of delts)

mb i see that you've mentioned it

 

[Luca_.]

Quite possibly the worst take I’ve heard

Your masseters are a small muscle that maxes out in terms of motor unit recruitment from daily activity like chewing your food.