Serious 1 more year then I surrender.

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

“ouch my pussy hurts I have to kill myself” be a man and thug it out until you learn the hard way. If you aren’t okay with being alone for awhile then you will never grow.

nah, for me I'm worried it will be forever, and I refuse to lay on my deathbed in hospital at 80 seeing everyone else with their wives, kids, grandkids and all that shit while I have no one, growing up my whole life having to go to friends weddings, christenings and everything knowing I am not aloud to have those things, I would happily rather die the most painful way I can and die a male suicide statistic at 23 knowing I am freeing myself from the pain than voluntarily suffer when it can be over quickly.

 

[tmpll]

nah, for me I'm worried it will be forever, and I refuse to lay on my deathbed in hospital at 80 seeing everyone else with their wives, kids, grandkids and all that shit while I have no one, growing up my whole life having to go to friends weddings, christenings and everything knowing I am not aloud to have those things, I would happily rather die the most painful way I can and die a male suicide statistic at 23 knowing I am freeing myself from the pain than voluntarily suffer when it can be over quickly.

if you have the right surgeries done by good surgeons you will be fine

 

[Mogden]

nah, for me I'm worried it will be forever, and I refuse to lay on my deathbed in hospital at 80 seeing everyone else with their wives, kids, grandkids and all that shit while I have no one, growing up my whole life having to go to friends weddings, christenings and everything knowing I am not aloud to have those things, I would happily rather die the most painful way I can and die a male suicide statistic at 23 knowing I am freeing myself from the pain than voluntarily suffer when it can be over quickly.

Or you pick yourself up and make something of yourself. No one will come to save you so if you wanna wallow in self pity and give up on your life before it’s even started then you go right on ahead and end it. But I’ve seen uglier men live happier lives with people who love them. The only thing in your way is yourself.

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

“I have been saying this for 4-5 years and i am 22”
Saying this since a teenager really shows character
Phase of your life when you have so much time to change shit yet he stayed the same for so long
That was time he couldve used to make some money and get some surgery
Assuming he has no disabilities, this is really all self-inflicted

I have ADHD, probably neurodivergent and I am anti social, also clinically diagnosed sociopath, up until recently I didn't know how I was going to make money, I only discovered looksmaxing properly last year. I did well on social media a while back playing an online internet personality and it did well, now I am collabing with artists and pursuing a career as an MC, if I get a big enough following, earnings, streams and eventually a major record deal or build from there I plan spend my money on hardmaxxing and serious surgery. If I do not succeed as a commercial model or any of the rewarding opportunities I have, it is over.

 

[Mogden]

I have ADHD, probably neurodivergent and I am anti social, also clinically diagnosed sociopath, up until recently I didn't know how I was going to make money, I only discovered looksmaxing properly last year. I did well on social media a while back playing an online internet personality and it did well, now I am collabing with artists and pursuing a career as an MC, if I get a big enough following, earnings, streams and eventually a major record deal or build from there I plan spend my money on hardmaxxing and serious surgery. If I do not succeed as a commercial model or any of the rewarding opportunities I have, it is over.

First half of this message is literally me

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

IMO the best thing you can do for a suicidal person is give them cold hard advice. They wanna kill themselves cuz they got lied to abt life in the first place, why fake being nice and lying to them more. It’s not like we could physically stop them from ending it, but if they’re gonna end it, I’m at least gonna be real with them

best thing you can do is let them, instead of trying talk them down, forcing them to hospital and to get sectioned or whatever police and medical services choose to do, I regret all the times I was close to jumping and about to, but some fucking white knight save the day has to step in and be the good guy, we all know they don't care they just don't want letting someone kts on their conscience. Stopping them is just forcing them to suffer more, it is immoral, evil and insidious, no one chose to be born, no one chose to suffer and we certainly didn't choose to be blackpilled, it is our choice and right to decide to and act on ending it, as long as no one innocent gets taken in the process of course.

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

Not every1 wants to risk hardmaxxing n***a, u talk about it like its like trying out a diet or something jfl

Oh no if I had the money or succeed in my career opportunities and become rich I will hardmaxx for sure, I have no problem with it, if I ever afford it and can go through the treatment plan I would certainly get limb lengthening no doubt, I said until the end of next year as I will assume if I haven't got lots of streams and signed major deals yet or succeeded in something, I'll assume my only path given to me is to be an ugly truecel wage slave and never be able to afford the cure for the blackpill. I'd rather have my throat slit and have acid poured down it and feel every inch of pain before dying before I would choose that life of poverty, draining life, growing old and alone never having those things.,

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

then rope r****d, if they dont want to "risk" it they dont deserve it

as fucked up as this is to say, some people are genuinely subhuman, people with sever facial deformities, disfigurements or other alien biology can have all the surgeries and treatment in the world and they will never even get past sub 5 to LTN let alone chadlite to chad, like lets be real, the guy in the photo below, come on now, there is no saving this. even with intense hardmaxxing, jaw surgery, buccal fat removal, fillers, veneers and every surgery and cosmetic going, he will never get the handsome men treatment, the video is titled how women treat handsome men vs unnattractive men btw, by moggers club. It is very unlikely he will ever be enough to recieve even slight female attention, if someone like me cannot, his only options are to accept it an be happy in other aspects of life or go rouge, he can probably reach LTN to MTN with serious hardmaxing and even that is a push. I genuinely have big potential, I know that, but the only thing that is giving me reason to live right now is doing well as an MC, content creator and commercial model and with other opportunities I have, if I succeed, sign major deals and become rich, I hardmax, fully transform, become a PSL high SMV god. I win, I can hardmax and receive the dream life. If I fail and loose, become a truecel wage slave and never afford the cure, and like I said, I would rather have my throat slit and have acid poured down it and feel every inch of pain as I enter death before I would EVER voluntarily choose a life of poverty, loneliness and watching. If I am living on this earth it is either going to be my way or not at all.

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

Well then not every1 wants to improve hard enough
It’s not justifiable to kill yourself before even trying to hardmax n***a
That is a bigger risk than hardmaxxing itself

Yea one of my friends was literally saying that, she said yea and what if you kill yourself, then just as you do it someone sends you a DM or something and wants to get to know you, she could be gorgeous, great personality and everything and maybe be your wife or mother to your kids one day, but you'll never have any of that because if you do it and succeed, it's too late. I hear her really, but that is not going to happen, this isn't Disney's frozen or fucking titanic. The real world doesn't work this way

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

yeah but he isn’t actually gonna do that though

if i see confirmation the server denies me the life then it's better than being a wage slave truecell

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

This is an assumption
Yeah most of the times they don’t do it, but who’s to say there’s not a possibility?
Better to advise hardmaxxing than they possibly actually donit

I've come close before, god I wish I did

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

That isn’t what u said though, u said that not risking hardmaxxing means u don’t deserve to ascend, that’s nonsensical

Yea not everyone can afford it, trust me I would kill for the opportunity to hardmax

 

[rand anon]

if i see confirmation the server denies me the life then it's better than being a wage slave truecell

I mean for what it’s worth it’s not completely over at ur current looks. Could easily jbwmaxx in squishyland if u grow out ur hair

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

n***a accept the truth; some people are so ugly hardmaxxing is the only way they’ll significantly ascend to a level where they are treated humanely

That is far from the issue with me, I have big potential I just need to make a living and high end career to afford it

 

[genio]

That is far from the issue with me, I have big potential I just need to make a living and high end career to afford it

With hardmaxxing son
Im sorry but your base is not great

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

Btw @Mogden @tmpll he posted this a bit ago yet still complains about wtv he is rn
Stop wasting your energy on women
https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/stop-wasting-your-energy-on-women.217563/

Yea I tried adopting the MGTOW mindset, but realising it is harder to do than I thought, seeing other men happy and in relationships and not us is living proof we are not men, we don't deserve good things, we don't deserve demands and dreams. Being tall, good looking and successful with women and rich and successful in life to provide for yourself, your woman and children are the key things to being a man, and if you cannot attain them. You are more feminine than a true woman, and a man should be anything but a beta male and feminine. Doesn't matter how hard or tough you are, how good you are at coping, the sexual frustration, loneliness, suffering and pain eventually gets too much, driving men to commit sexual offences and or violent gunman attacks of rage (look at Eliot Rodger and Jake Davison) I would rather kms then get that low in life, that is low, scum, even for me despite how much anger and hatred I have for society.

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

Btw @Mogden @tmpll he posted this a bit ago yet still complains about wtv he is rn
Stop wasting your energy on women
https://forum.looksmaxxing.com/threads/stop-wasting-your-energy-on-women.217563/

Plus when did I ever say anything about a relationship. wanting to be chosen can mean anything, chosen for sex, chosen as a partner. I'm more than happy to dip in a bitch then go, or keep it casual. I have given up with the idea of relationships anyway, they are transactional, nothing else, the man gives his resources the woman gives pleasure. There is no such thing as true love. If I meet someone special and we click then of course I would enter a relationship, but I would be very fucking careful and I won't be taken for a fucking mug

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

So what? That doesn’t mean everyone has the risk tolerance to hardmaxx

Listen I agree, if someone can easily hardmax and they would rathe rope before trying hardmaxing then they are fucking retarded, roping is a final option when all options have been tried, exhausted and there is no other alternative than live happy in other ways or go purge but they don't have the guts to do it. roping is a final solution when there is no cure for their blackpilling and they would rather die than watch others happiness, then I would gladly think yea do it and be free, but obviously I wouldn't encourage them cos I'm not a scumbag. It is their choice to make, no one else's, and you shouldn't encourage. let them decide freely.

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

I’m not defending anything, he ain’t gonna commit seppuku neekaaahh, anyone who writes that long of an op won’t Well unless it’s a manifesto or suicide note or something, but u don’t usually get to see until after the deed is done

Yea how tf would I be able to post it after the deed is done . and I am planning on writing a manifesto, only reason I haven't posted it yet is because I don't want to end up under counter terror

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

lol I was just saying that just because someone doesn’t wanna hardmaxx doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to ascend. Never meant to imply that it’s better to die than hardmaxx lol, which is how u took it

If you have the money, and are fully capable of affording and successfully getting hardmaxing done, with no after debt, and can make recovery appointments and you choose not to then no you don't deserve to ascend, there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of us looksmaxing on a budget only ever dreaming of being able to hardmax and overrule gods curse, the servers and the unfair genetic lottery, if you can get it done and you refuse not to, then it is an insult to the budgetcels. If I ever become successful and have enough money to hard max I'll do it no doubt. I just put 1 year as the deadline, if things gradually improve or I see potential or change in my life and or circumstances I'll keep going past the year. If nothing AT ALL has changed then roping is the only escape,

 

[Ashton_Aesthetics]

yea let the hair grow bro

Let's just hope that combined with bone smashing, gua sha and mastic tape will be enough to transform high enough ish until the day I can afford hardmaxing.