Am I the oldest truecel here?

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I do respect you it's just sounds off because of the contradictions

When I say respect I just talk about an equal, someone I view who is truly strong in their own will. I like you but I view your decisions as "morally wrong" in a way.

Funny edits make me smile

How old are you?

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Makes more sense

New contradiction: what is memorable enough, and what value memory of people has on you? You don't set parameters and just use labels

Well it's not like I can quantify an x amount of changing the world value. But I can give examples. The average person may not know who Tim Berners Lee is but he was obviously very influentiall
I have a very specific way of wanting to change it (will only elab in dm though)

Counter culture express their position towards the power, in their case, being against it

Is to reflect the reality
And the subjectiveness comes with your confusing labels

related to the free will argumennt

No one has anything set for them, and free will nowadays is a tricky phrase. The power learnt to divide opinions in two sides and have presence in both. Only free people are rapist, murderers, cannibalism, and mentally ill people, since they are not functional and they damage functional citizens

You can argue that free will doesn't exist at all. We don't chose our impulses and desires, and these things often define us. Eg for you: you sek love and I seek some concept of greatness. But neither of us chose this, both are difficult to accomplish in their own ways for both of us
Of course mine is nearly impossible but still.
Here's a quote that fits it. Man can do what he wills, but man can't will what he wills. We spend our entire life chasing desires and yet we don't choose these desires. So are we all just slaves?
At the same time, isn't it wrong to tell someone they can't pursue a certain desire? It's not that I'm pro murderer. But if you really want to kill people, but can't go through your life killing people, you'll probably feel depressed that you can't carry out your passions and desires. It's like incels who want sex or love but can never get it, and get depressed.

Even more than that, most of our thoughts and mental processes are subconscious. There are arguments that even conscious decision making is an illusion to an extent. But it's hard to comprehend.

My English limits me to know homesteaders meaning and I don't know who sv3rige is

Homesteaders is basically just what I said people living away from society. You see those tradcucks going on about it
Sv3rige is an online figure that kind of advocates for similar stuff (leaving society and returning to nature) but he has very willful behavior and only does what he wants. Him and I have very opposing world views (I think humanity should transcend nature while he thinks we should live according to it) but I respect him for following his own will to the very end.

 

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What the sigma

What the @sigma

 

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When I say respect I just talk about an equal, someone I view who is truly strong in their own will. I like you but I view your decisions as "morally wrong" in a way.

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Well it's not like I can quantify an x amount of changing the world value. But I can give examples. The average person may not know who Tim Berners Lee is but he was obviously very influentiall
I have a very specific way of wanting to change it (will only elab in dm though)

I got curius, if you feel comfortable, I would like to know your plan since you should have already started it

related to the free will argumennt

You can argue that free will doesn't exist at all. We don't chose our impulses and desires, and these things often define us. Eg for you: you sek love and I seek some concept of greatness. But neither of us chose this, both are difficult to accomplish in their own ways for both of us
Of course mine is nearly impossible but still.
Here's a quote that fits it. Man can do what he wills, but man can't will what he wills. We spend our entire life chasing desires and yet we don't choose these desires. So are we all just slaves?
At the same time, isn't it wrong to tell someone they can't pursue a certain desire? It's not that I'm pro murderer. But if you really want to kill people, but can't go through your life killing people, you'll probably feel depressed that you can't carry out your passions and desires. It's like incels who want sex or love but can never get it, and get depressed.

Even more than that, most of our thoughts and mental processes are subconscious. There are arguments that even conscious decision making is an illusion to an extent. But it's hard to comprehend.

individual leaves their desire to make community work. You only need one to start chasing his desire to make all community fall.
Also saying free will doesn't exists will again put a contradiction in your argument that only havinf an own will is valuable, since no one will have them. Is like whe I Said conquerors and leaders are manipulated by their own power, they can't go back when things are bad, making them look for alliances with people they didn't wanted, for example.

Homesteaders is basically just what I said people living away from society. You see those tradcucks going on about it
Sv3rige is an online figure that kind of advocates for similar stuff (leaving society and returning to nature) but he has very willful behavior and only does what he wants. Him and I have very opposing world views (I think humanity should transcend nature while he thinks we should live according to it) but I respect him for following his own will to the very end.

Understood, yeah I think society and system is important and we should advocate to make it better, but there are no chosen ones to lead us to that better society

 

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I got curius, if you feel comfortable, I would like to know your plan since you should have already started it

individual leaves their desire to make community work. You only need one to start chasing his desire to make all community fall.
Also saying free will doesn't exists will again put a contradiction in your argument that only havinf an own will is valuable, since no one will have them.

It was my point, just a random thought. It's weird to think about.
All of modern western responsibility is based on this idea of responsibility, but maybe that's a lie
If we're nothing but robots preprogrammed to chase our desires it is sort of depressing and eternal slavery
But there's freedom to come out of it as well (accepting it and letting go)
I guess what it can lead down to is that at the end of the day your world is just your own judgements. And all you can do is follow that to the grave

Anyway I'll DM you in a bit

Is like whe I Said conquerors and leaders are manipulated by their own power, they can't go back when things are bad, making them look for alliances with people they didn't wanted, for example.

Of course you won't have 100% power and be a god (yet), but people like Alexander existed that conquered most of what the known world was to him and achieved great things. I really wish I could be him

Understood, yeah I think society and system is important and we should advocate to make it better, but there are no chosen ones to lead us to that better society

 

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It was my point, just a random thought. It's weird to think about.
All of modern western responsibility is based on this idea of responsibility, but maybe that's a lie
If we're nothing but robots preprogrammed to chase our desires it is sort of depressing and eternal slavery
But there's freedom to come out of it as well (accepting it and letting go)
I guess what it can lead down to is that at the end of the day your world is just your own judgements. And all you can do is follow that to the grave

Anyway I'll DM you in a bit

Will wait for it

Of course you won't have 100% power and be a god (yet), but people like Alexander existed that conquered most of what the known world was to him and achieved great things. I really wish I could be him

Alexander got defeated by I don't remember who
Napoleon and hitler by Russia
Caesar got killed by his own allies
Even after soviet union fall the "end of history" didn't happened

 

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Will wait for it

Alexander got defeated by I don't remember who
Napoleon and hitler by Russia
Caesar got killed by his own allies
Even after soviet union fall the "end of history" didn't happened

Alexander didn't really get defeated he just died
That was the whole impressive part

Some say he was poisoned, others say he ODd, others say it was genetic disease, idek