Bulking/gain weight

[luceient]

Any tips of how to bulk and I don’t want any bs like eat a tub of peanut butter per day.

 

[Duracel]

Any tips of how to bulk and I don’t want any bs like eat a tub of peanut butter per day.

Who are you male female, age, height, weight ? Also what's your goal with bulking ? Putting on some muscle mass as well ?

 

[Blackpillirony]

Any tips of how to bulk and I don’t want any bs like eat a tub of peanut butter per day.

Mass gainer, make sure to take a quality one. Give solution, it’s the check in the right.

 

[muttthal_2]

Add banana or mango in milk, drink it every morning. Add more saturated fats in your diet.

Put condiments on your meal.

 

[luceient]

Who are you male female, age, height, weight ? Also what's your goal with bulking ? Putting on some muscle mass as well ?

Male 17 5’9 125lbs, bulking for gym so preferably clean bulk

 

[luceient]

Add banana or mango in milk, drink it every morning. Add more saturated fats in your diet.

Put condiments on your meal.

Thank you

 

[Blackpillirony]

Male 17 5’9 125lbs, bulking for gym so preferably clean bulk

Yeah mass gainer

 

[over0]

Just eat more beef and less chicken theory also put cheese in everything tbh

 

[Blackpillirony]

Just eat more beef and less chicken theory also put cheese in everything tbh

Jfl

 

[Duracel]

Male 17 5’9 125lbs, bulking for gym so preferably clean bulk

For lean bulk then forget about junk food and focus on carbs/proteins/fat but also micronutrients.
If you struggle to eat, instead of 3 big plates per day you can eat 6 plates per day

Examples of lean bulk diet :

A) In the morning you can make overnight oats with fruits, unflavoured protein powder, greek yogurt, skyr, cheap cocoa powder etc

B) Any snacks can be like greek yogurt with honey, fruits or the good old peanut butter fruits jelly sandwich with whole grain bread.

C) For lunch you can try to make a Hachis Parmentier, it's basically mashed potatoes and seasoned grinded beef/chicken/turkey meat. Imo it's easier to eat than the old rice/brocoli/boiled chicken method

D) If you want to taste british breakfast you can try a white/red/black beans, with lean bacon and fried eggs. It's mainly proteins & fats but still.

E) If you want to try mass gainers shakers, do one yourself for the higher quality in carbs and micronutrients (quick absorption carbs like maltodextrin, dextrose, vitargo should be kept in intra-workout drinks). Try a mix of unflavoured protein powder, milk, coffee or cocoa powder, peanut butter (the one without palm oil and sugar ofc), greek/skyr yogurt, fruits like bananas/dried dattes etc

D) Another snack idea : eating any types of nuts like wallnuts, cashew (unsalted) etc and canned sardines in olive oil. Also canned tuna and maquerels.

E) Try to make high caloric soup with unflavoured protein powder, beef/chicken stock, bone broth, different vegetables, onions, orzo pastas, lentils etc

F) Avoid protein bars, they're expensive and full of sugars, it will be the same as putting a scoop of protein in your Cheerios cereals. I mean you can do it, but it will be better to focus on micronutrients/fiber dense carbs.

G) When i was broke back then in Thaïland i was mixing 8 seasoned eggs and 50g of buckwheat flour to make an omelette with carbs.

@pompompurino thoughts ?

 

[pompompurino]

For lean bulk then forget about junk food and focus on carbs/proteins/fat but also micronutrients.
If you struggle to eat, instead of 3 big plates per day you can eat 6 plates per day

Examples of lean bulk diet :

A) In the morning you can make overnight oats with fruits, unflavoured protein powder, greek yogurt, skyr, cheap cocoa powder etc

B) Any snacks can be like greek yogurt with honey, fruits or the good old peanut butter fruits jelly sandwich with whole grain bread.

C) For lunch you can try to make a Hachis Parmentier, it's basically mashed potatoes and seasoned grinded beef/chicken/turkey meat. Imo it's easier to eat than the old rice/brocoli/boiled chicken method

D) If you want to taste british breakfast you can try a white/red/black beans, with lean bacon and fried eggs. It's mainly proteins & fats but still.

E) If you want to try mass gainers shakers, do one yourself for the higher quality in carbs and micronutrients (quick absorption carbs like maltodextrin, dextrose, vitargo should be kept in intra-workout drinks). Try a mix of unflavoured protein powder, milk, coffee or cocoa powder, peanut butter (the one without palm oil and sugar ofc), greek/skyr yogurt, fruits like bananas/dried dattes etc

D) Another snack idea : eating any types of nuts like wallnuts, cashew (unsalted) etc and canned sardines in olive oil. Also canned tuna and maquerels.

E) Try to make high caloric soup with unflavoured protein powder, beef/chicken stock, bone broth, different vegetables, onions, orzo pastas, lentils etc

F) Avoid protein bars, they're expensive and full of sugars, it will be the same as putting a scoop of protein in your Cheerios cereals. I mean you can do it, but it will be better to focus on micronutrients/fiber dense carbs.

G) When i was broke back then in Thaïland i was mixing 8 seasoned eggs and 50g of buckwheat flour to make an omelette with carbs.

@pompompurino thoughts ?

perfect, u are so helpful!

 

[TruearyanT800]

Blend your food

 

[over0]

Jfl

500g of chicken has about 825-1000 calories, while 500g of beef has approximately 1440 calories

Fuck you mean jfl

 

[over0]

For lean bulk then forget about junk food and focus on carbs/proteins/fat but also micronutrients.
If you struggle to eat, instead of 3 big plates per day you can eat 6 plates per day

Examples of lean bulk diet :

A) In the morning you can make overnight oats with fruits, unflavoured protein powder, greek yogurt, skyr, cheap cocoa powder etc

B) Any snacks can be like greek yogurt with honey, fruits or the good old peanut butter fruits jelly sandwich with whole grain bread.

C) For lunch you can try to make a Hachis Parmentier, it's basically mashed potatoes and seasoned grinded beef/chicken/turkey meat. Imo it's easier to eat than the old rice/brocoli/boiled chicken method

D) If you want to taste british breakfast you can try a white/red/black beans, with lean bacon and fried eggs. It's mainly proteins & fats but still.

E) If you want to try mass gainers shakers, do one yourself for the higher quality in carbs and micronutrients (quick absorption carbs like maltodextrin, dextrose, vitargo should be kept in intra-workout drinks). Try a mix of unflavoured protein powder, milk, coffee or cocoa powder, peanut butter (the one without palm oil and sugar ofc), greek/skyr yogurt, fruits like bananas/dried dattes etc

D) Another snack idea : eating any types of nuts like wallnuts, cashew (unsalted) etc and canned sardines in olive oil. Also canned tuna and maquerels.

E) Try to make high caloric soup with unflavoured protein powder, beef/chicken stock, bone broth, different vegetables, onions, orzo pastas, lentils etc

F) Avoid protein bars, they're expensive and full of sugars, it will be the same as putting a scoop of protein in your Cheerios cereals. I mean you can do it, but it will be better to focus on micronutrients/fiber dense carbs.

G) When i was broke back then in Thaïland i was mixing 8 seasoned eggs and 50g of buckwheat flour to make an omelette with carbs.

@pompompurino thoughts ?

Greek yogurt for a bulk I'm gonna fucking rope

All the grain sludge too just shoot me

 

[pompompurino]

Greek yogurt for a bulk I'm gonna fucking rope

All the grain sludge too just shoot me

i would eat greek yogurt when i bulked

 

[over0]

i would eat greek yogurt when i bulked

- foid

 

[Blackpillirony]

500g of chicken has about 825-1000 calories, while 500g of beef has approximately 1440 calories

Fuck you mean jfl

Can hardly read since I have dark mode on, if you want to bulk just eat more carbs and fats simple as that

 

[over0]

Can hardly read since I have dark mode on, if you want to bulk just eat more carbs and fats simple as that

It also involves swapping out food for higher cal alternative (which beef is)

 

[Blackpillirony]

It also involves swapping out food for higher cal alternative (which beef is)

Whatev, generally when you're bulking you should be looking for more carbs and fats than protein rich foods

 

[over0]

Whatev, generally when you're bulking protein rich foods

Mf said just get fat basically

 

[over0]

Whatev, generally when you're bulking protein rich foods

Kys Dean fix ur site tbh

 

[Blackpillirony]

Mf said just get fat basically
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That's bulking dude, are you baiting ?

 

[over0]

That's bulking dude, are you baiting ?

Fine line between bulking and getting fat

Lean bulk is to gain as little fat and as much muscle as possible so common sense says we need HIGH protein

 

[pompompurino]

Can hardly read since I have dark mode on, if you want to bulk just eat more carbs and fats simple as that

well what over0 suggested is exactly that, beef tends to be on the fattier side so yes it’s smarter to eat more beef than chicken when bulking

 

[Blackpillirony]

Fine line between bulking and getting fat

Lean bulk is to gain as little fat and as much muscle as possible so common sense says we need HIGH protein

OP just wants to just bulk, I already wrote in my guide about why you should learn bulk ideally by just having a balanced diet and eating 10-20% above your maintenance calorie level.

 

[Blackpillirony]

well what over0 suggested is exactly that, beef tends to be on the fattier side so yes it’s smarter to eat more beef than chicken when bulking

Perhaps, but that's not a solution to just swap beef for chicken if you want to bulk

 

[over0]

OP just wants to just bulk, I already wrote in my guide about why you should learn bulk ideally by just having a balanced diet and eating 10-20% above your maintenance calorie level.

The purpose of a bulk is still to gain muscle mass especially a clean bulk jfl

 

[truetard]

I am the mass goat but my tactics are sacred

 

[Blackpillirony]

The purpose of a bulk is still to gain muscle mass especially a clean bulk jfl

I mean yeah water, but there's a reason why powerlifters are fat

 

[pompompurino]

Perhaps, but that's not a solution to just swap beef for chicken if you want to bulk

it is a solution tho what are u talking ab? bulking = u need to consume more calories to gain weight (obviously u want to gain muscle rather than fat on a bulk, not the point rn), beef contains more calories than chicken bc it is fattier. u suggested eating more fats urself.
= swapping chicken for beef when bulking is a solution

 

[over0]

I mean yeah water, but there's a reason why powerlifters are fat

We're on a looksmaxxing site bro what? Just admit your in the wrong it's okay

 

[pompompurino]

I mean yeah water, but there's a reason why powerlifters are fat

no one here wants to be fat, powerlifters are completely irrelevant here

 

[Blackpillirony]

We're on a looksmaxxing site bro what? Just admit your in the wrong it's okay

Wrong about what I'm confused?

 

[truetard]

don’t lift to many weights now, you might get too bulky like Ronnie Coleman

 

[Blackpillirony]

it is a solution tho what are u talking ab? bulking = u need to consume more calories to gain weight (obviously u want to gain muscle rather than fat on a bulk, not the point rn), beef contains more calories than chicken bc it is fattier. u suggested eating more fats urself.
= swapping chicken for beef when bulking is a solution

Yeah but it won't make a huge difference, Duracels answer was much more complete and adequate to OPs question

 

[pompompurino]

Yeah but it won't make a huge difference, Duracels answer was much more complete and adequate to OPs question

yea it was but it doesn’t change the fact over0’s suggestion was still a great one that can also be implemented

 

[Blackpillirony]

yea it was but it doesn’t change the fact over0’s suggestion was still a great one that can also be implemented

Perhaps

 

[Duracel]

Greek yogurt for a bulk I'm gonna fucking rope

Wdym it's for the protein intake mainly, it's a skimmed milk based fermented food. I'm not aware of the english terms for the different yogurts since english isn't my main language, but any fatter yogurt (like raw milk kefir) can be good too, it's up to OP's budget and what he can found where he lives

All the grain sludge too just shoot me

"muh oats is for the horses"

Whatev, generally when you're bulking you should be looking for more carbs and fats than protein rich foods

Carbs are mainly for glycogen restorage and brain function, that's why i recommend sources with micronutrients except intraworkout, but it can be switched with raw honey (from the local beekeeper, not the supermarket one diluted with corn syrup) if OP has the budget.
Fat are mainly for hormones production and replenish the fat storages inside the muscles (who get used by the body during training). Both are important for recovery

 

[Duracel]

Fine line between bulking and getting fat

Lean bulk is to gain as little fat and as much muscle as possible so common sense says we need HIGH protein

Yes and no because carbs and fats will be used for muscle recovery and hormonal production. Sure proteins can be converted into glucose but tbf it's not optimal because leucine (the main amino acid) cannot be converted into glucose compared to other essential and non-essential amino acids, and we know that any extra calorie/amino acid from proteins that the body didn't use will be converted by the liver as fat.

And you don't take into consideration beef prices. Nowadays unless you're rich or your parents are rich, nobody can afford long term eating beef at every meal. Here where i live 1 kilogram of (high quality) beef is ~+30€ for just one day, it's not sustainable for most of us.
Also you didn't have considered the satiety problem with mastication through dense food, which is the main problem of people who needs large amounts of proteins/carbs/fat/micronutrients to fuel a serious muscle growth long term

 

[over0]

Yes and no because carbs and fats will be used for muscle recovery and hormonal production. Sure proteins can be converted into glucose but tbf it's not optimal because leucine (the main amino acid) cannot be converted into glucose compared to other essential and non-essential amino acids, and we know that any extra calorie/amino acid from proteins that the body didn't use will be converted by the liver as fat.

And you don't take into consideration beef prices. Nowadays unless you're rich or your parents are rich, nobody can afford long term eating beef at every meal. Here where i live 1 kilogram of (high quality) beef is ~+30€ for just one day, it's not sustainable for most of us.
Also you didn't have considered the satiety problem with mastication through dense food, which is the main problem of people who needs large amounts of proteins/carbs/fat/micronutrients to fuel a serious muscle growth long term

He's saying you shouldn't be focusing on getting a high protein intake THATS my problem

 

[Blackpillirony]

He's saying you shouldn't be focusing on getting a high protein intake THATS my problem

I did not JFL, reaching your protein quota is literally not that hard

 

[over0]

I did not JFL, reaching your protein quota is literally not that hard
should be looking for more carbs and fats than protein rich foods

Bro what? Stop back tracking holy fuck

Also yes it is for alot of people so that's just cope

 

[Duracel]

He's saying you shouldn't be focusing on getting a high protein intake THATS my problem

I don't remember the exact data but the body can assimilate up to 2 grams of protein daily per kilogram of bodyweight so 200 grams is prob the max we can eat without being either a waste or liver conversion into fat (who will be used later converted again into glucose)
Everything else of your calories needs should come from carbs/fats/and the pity amount of calories from your vegetables, so depending of the calories amount needed, proteins can be a bit lower than carbs yes

That's also why i recommed low glycemic index carbs and fats from the protein sources, to reduce any risks to rawdog refined sugar

Remember that depending on your health markers, metabolism and physical activity level, your body will burn a lot of carbs to function properly without feeling tired.
That's why i recommended recently to @pompompurino to up her calories, to be able to perform at her job but also during her workouts, to avoid more fatigue than needed.

Why forcing your liver to convert proteins into glucose when you can have basically better sources of raw glucose like fruits, potatoes and so on

 

[over0]

I don't remember the exact data but the body can assimilate up to 2 grams of protein daily per kilogram of bodyweight so 200 grams is prob the max we can eat without being either a waste or liver conversion into fat (who will be used later converted again into glucose)
Everything else of your calories needs should come from carbs/fats/and the pity amount of calories from your vegetables, so depending of the calories amount needed, proteins can be a bit lower than carbs yes

That's also why i recommed low glycemic index carbs and fats from the protein sources, to reduce any risks to rawdog refined sugar

Remember that depending on your health markers, metabolism and physical activity level, your body will burn a lot of carbs to function properly without feeling tired.
That's why i recommended recently to @pompompurino to up her calories, to be able to perform at her job but also during her workouts, to avoid more fatigue than needed.

Why forcing your liver to convert proteins into glucose when you can have basically better sources of raw glucose like fruits, potatoes and so on

Mf nobody needs more than 200g of protein this is cope

 

[Duracel]

Mf nobody needs more than 200g of protein this is cope

Do you have any serious studies about it ? I'm genuinely interested since 200g is the max (sometimes less if you weight lighter) the body needs to recover daily as an active natural weight-lifter, while the rest of amino acids will be converted either into glucose, or the leucin (most anabolic amino acid) will be converted into fat by the liver, and not into more building blocks for muscles

 

[Blackpillirony]

I don't remember the exact data but the body can assimilate up to 2 grams of protein daily per kilogram of bodyweight so 200 grams is prob the max we can eat without being either a waste or liver conversion into fat (who will be used later converted again into glucose)
Everything else of your calories needs should come from carbs/fats/and the pity amount of calories from your vegetables, so depending of the calories amount needed, proteins can be a bit lower than carbs yes

That's also why i recommed low glycemic index carbs and fats from the protein sources, to reduce any risks to rawdog refined sugar

Remember that depending on your health markers, metabolism and physical activity level, your body will burn a lot of carbs to function properly without feeling tired.
That's why i recommended recently to @pompompurino to up her calories, to be able to perform at her job but also during her workouts, to avoid more fatigue than needed.

Why forcing your liver to convert proteins into glucose when you can have basically better sources of raw glucose like fruits, potatoes and so on

Thanks btw Duracel

 

[pompompurino]

I did not JFL, reaching your protein quota is literally not that hard

all this bc she said swapping from chicken to beef btw

 

[Blackpillirony]

all this bc she said swapping from chicken to beef btw

I got an evisceration thread for telling someone to sleep on his back

 

[over0]

Do you have any serious studies about it ? I'm genuinely interested since 200g is the max (sometimes less if you weight lighter) the body needs to recover daily as an active natural weight-lifter, while the rest of amino acids will be converted either into glucose, or the leucin (most anabolic amino acid) will be converted into fat by the liver, and not into more building blocks for muscles

New Study Suggests There’s No Such Thing as Too Much Protein https://share.google/akS76Jy3X3xDkmuON

Also common sense nobody is really gonna need to eat more than 200g of protein anyway. There no NEED to eat more than 200g protein is what you really mean

 

[Duracel]

New Study Suggests There’s No Such Thing as Too Much Protein https://share.google/akS76Jy3X3xDkmuON

Also common sense nobody is really gonna need to eat more than 200g of protein anyway. There no NEED to eat more than 200g protein is what you really mean

Oh yeah i know that meta, you can eat 100g per meal the body will absorb it without problems

Also common sense nobody is really gonna need to eat more than 200g of protein anyway. There no NEED to eat more than 200g protein is what you really mean

My point was the total daily protein intake, it shouldn't be any higher than 200/220g per day or the body will be obligated to convert it into something else because he don't like wasting
So for your example of the beef, 250g of lean beef per day should be optimal, but it's ~650 calories so the rest of the calories should come from carbs and fat