saw_escapingmtn
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One of the most cited failos as being "unfixable" and brutal is having a close-set IPD, that being anything less than 44%.
The truth is that when nuance is applied, you will see that no single ratio can automatically disqualify someone from being average and above, and IPD is no exception.
First of all, here are some examples of actual moggers with actual unideal IPDs:
Alain Delon (43.5)
lan Somerhalder (43.4)
Chace Crawford (43.4)
Zayn Malik (42.9)
Theo James (41.7)
btw this is just conclusive proof; most people in this com think any less than 43 is death tier but Theo James and Zayn Malik have WAY closer eyes than even I thought just by looking at them).
Fixes:
Softmaxx:
Adjust eyebrow spacing (trimming inner corners)
Cover lateral zygos with hair (literally frauds IPD ratio i cant believe this isnt talked about more. appearance of closer bizygomatic width increases perceived IPD)
Eye drops to reduce pupils size
Hardmaxx:
Canthoplasty - this obviously does not change your pupil's distance from each other, but increasing PFL outwards clearly changes the perceived distance of the eyes from each other.
Lefort - this is, in my view, the most effective one here. Your midface ratio is one of the most important facial ratios out there. Lefort (case dependent whether 1, 2 or 3) directly changes this. The problem with close-set IPD that not many people realise is that it directly impacts your MFR. If you have an ideal MFR, then your IPD becomes significantly less important since this ratio involves the middle of your face, which is more readily perceived than your bizygomatic width.
The chances are if you have a bad IPD, then you also likely have a long midface as a result (in fact, unideal ipds are often perceived mainly because of unideal MFR!). So by shortening your midface, your IPD does not appear significantly narrow. I mean, just look at the dudes I listed. Their IPD doesn't look retarded primarily because their MFR ratios are in or very near the ideal range, even though 41-43 IPD is usually thought of as a over level by normies and iqlets
Orbital box osteotomy - this one is controversial and a bit of a meme due to how inaccessible, expensive and risky it is. I would consider any other method previously mentioned way before OBO, and if your IPD is > around 39, I wouldn't consider it to be worth it since shortening midface will do infinitely more for you if you are in that range. But it is still possible, and there is an org thread of a guy who did legitimately get OBO, so it's not like nobody does it. But even for so-called over instances, i genuinely believe that shortening midface through lefort would still ascend in basically all cases, so I don't believe OBO is necessary to "save" someone with a bad ipd when you can just lefort and forget.
I know that the amount of people who actually take action is extremely low, but I still think it was worth writing this thread for my fellow cyclopses out there, even if it just helped yall cope or if u learned something new from this thread. The truth is, MFR > IPD. And since MFR is a changeable ratio, it follows that close set eyes are a fixable failo (within reason).
Never rope boyos
The truth is that when nuance is applied, you will see that no single ratio can automatically disqualify someone from being average and above, and IPD is no exception.
First of all, here are some examples of actual moggers with actual unideal IPDs:
Alain Delon (43.5)
lan Somerhalder (43.4)
Chace Crawford (43.4)
Zayn Malik (42.9)
Theo James (41.7)
btw this is just conclusive proof; most people in this com think any less than 43 is death tier but Theo James and Zayn Malik have WAY closer eyes than even I thought just by looking at them).
Fixes:
Softmaxx:
Adjust eyebrow spacing (trimming inner corners)
Cover lateral zygos with hair (literally frauds IPD ratio i cant believe this isnt talked about more. appearance of closer bizygomatic width increases perceived IPD)
Eye drops to reduce pupils size
Hardmaxx:
Canthoplasty - this obviously does not change your pupil's distance from each other, but increasing PFL outwards clearly changes the perceived distance of the eyes from each other.
Lefort - this is, in my view, the most effective one here. Your midface ratio is one of the most important facial ratios out there. Lefort (case dependent whether 1, 2 or 3) directly changes this. The problem with close-set IPD that not many people realise is that it directly impacts your MFR. If you have an ideal MFR, then your IPD becomes significantly less important since this ratio involves the middle of your face, which is more readily perceived than your bizygomatic width.
The chances are if you have a bad IPD, then you also likely have a long midface as a result (in fact, unideal ipds are often perceived mainly because of unideal MFR!). So by shortening your midface, your IPD does not appear significantly narrow. I mean, just look at the dudes I listed. Their IPD doesn't look retarded primarily because their MFR ratios are in or very near the ideal range, even though 41-43 IPD is usually thought of as a over level by normies and iqlets
Orbital box osteotomy - this one is controversial and a bit of a meme due to how inaccessible, expensive and risky it is. I would consider any other method previously mentioned way before OBO, and if your IPD is > around 39, I wouldn't consider it to be worth it since shortening midface will do infinitely more for you if you are in that range. But it is still possible, and there is an org thread of a guy who did legitimately get OBO, so it's not like nobody does it. But even for so-called over instances, i genuinely believe that shortening midface through lefort would still ascend in basically all cases, so I don't believe OBO is necessary to "save" someone with a bad ipd when you can just lefort and forget.
I know that the amount of people who actually take action is extremely low, but I still think it was worth writing this thread for my fellow cyclopses out there, even if it just helped yall cope or if u learned something new from this thread. The truth is, MFR > IPD. And since MFR is a changeable ratio, it follows that close set eyes are a fixable failo (within reason).
Never rope boyos
