Serious Satan wants you to doubt he never existed.

[choripan]

I really hate it when people talk about the priests and crazy fraudulant christians as dissaprovement of christianity. Those people are not christians and their ideas are to take it down so that it seems less appealing to others. Most of those priests are a part of judaism and not christianity. People be acting like non-christians don't do the same thing as if christians are supposed to be perfect. Also what evidence is there for 2 bible translations with 200 years difference say different things? You didn't even name them and that was a singular occurence? Christianity also existed before Plato. That part about dragons exist cause people in the past painted them still doesn't mean anything. How do you know that Plato even existed bud. There is about the same amount of evidence for him as there is of Jesus. Muh, tons of books etc. Same goes for Jesus. It's just that people don't like him.

Believing in God does not make you a good person and that's not how it works either. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or not, you're a sinful person and it doesn't make you worth more than anybody and idk who told you that but it's not true. God created man equal but man ruined it.

It's well known that the conservación of the bible is not as good as the qoran for example, and to sum it up the use of Greek, Hebrew, Latin texts, wich depending on wich one you translate you got different sayings. it really surprises me you don't know that, as well as you don't know the history of Saint Augustin and Saint Tomas Aquino.
Wasn't there a huge problem with the pope before this actual one? Because a lot of his close people were pedos. And this thing is marked because to reach the priest level you must have a spiritual path and connection with God done, you are so connected with God you are able to guide others. So, if you are that connected, why do you do one of the most horrific sins? Normal people that do atrocities are considered monsters, religious people that do terrible things are considered monster and hypocrites, wich makes sense.
The painting example: all paintings, sculptures, windows of Jesus have been made AFTER his death and AFTER Christianity became main religion in Europe, being imagined at the image of an Europe peasant and not of a SEMITIC one, that's why his portraits have been made by the imagination of the artists, like dragons paintings.
I'm not saying Jesus didn't existed because there's proof that a random guy claimed to be the son of God and got executed, but nothing more than that. I just said your way of exampling is not the accurate one since you can't base yourself in your bad translated holy book nor imaginative paintings. If I'm not wrong Jesus existence was proved by historians investigstions works.
My last point, when I said being believer doesn't make you good person nor worth of anything, I didn't meant that people thinks believing makes you superior, but that believing is enough to being worth of heaven. All the bad things that have been done by Christians in name of God, no matter how much you say they weren't Christians, they were made. So, it seems that being Christian is not enough to be a good person, your own Bible recognizes this, you can't say you are a believer and not practicing, so, why should we worry if we think that Satan exist or doesn't? As long as you know you want to do good, it shouldn't matter the reason (unless it's for egoistic reasons) you do the good.

 

[Whitepill]

It's well known that the conservación of the bible is not as good as the qoran for example, and to sum it up the use of Greek, Hebrew, Latin texts, wich depending on wich one you translate you got different sayings. it really surprises me you don't know that, as well as you don't know the history of Saint Augustin and Saint Tomas Aquino.
Wasn't there a huge problem with the pope before this actual one? Because a lot of his close people were pedos. And this thing is marked because to reach the priest level you must have a spiritual path and connection with God done, you are so connected with God you are able to guide others. So, if you are that connected, why do you do one of the most horrific sins? Normal people that do atrocities are considered monsters, religious people that do terrible things are considered monster and hypocrites, wich makes sense.
The painting example: all paintings, sculptures, windows of Jesus have been made AFTER his death and AFTER Christianity became main religion in Europe, being imagined at the image of an Europe peasant and not of a SEMITIC one, that's why his portraits have been made by the imagination of the artists, like dragons paintings.
I'm not saying Jesus didn't existed because there's proof that a random guy claimed to be the son of God and got executed, but nothing more than that. I just said your way of exampling is not the accurate one since you can't base yourself in your bad translated holy book nor imaginative paintings. If I'm not wrong Jesus existence was proved by historians investigstions works.
My last point, when I said being believer doesn't make you good person nor worth of anything, I didn't meant that people thinks believing makes you superior, but that believing is enough to being worth of heaven. All the bad things that have been done by Christians in name of God, no matter how much you say they weren't Christians, they were made. So, it seems that being Christian is not enough to be a good person, your own Bible recognizes this, you can't say you are a believer and not practicing, so, why should we worry if we think that Satan exist or doesn't? As long as you know you want to do good, it shouldn't matter the reason (unless it's for egoistic reasons) you do the good.

I am not reading allat bud
Whole ass novel

 

[sigma]

What I meant was that I think Satan influences it. Evil came into this world after the fall which I think you discussed with clone earlier. Satan was once an angel who was cast out of heaven and while he can't force people to do evil, he can influence one to do it. I gotta get off. I been on this forum for much longer than I should be in one time span lmao.

ok
I didnt discuss it with clone but i do know the story
I don't believe we can assign blame to some evil devil, the blame is our responsibility or nature, the devil is not an excuse for harm

 

[Whitepill]

It's well known that the conservación of the bible is not as good as the qoran for example, and to sum it up the use of Greek, Hebrew, Latin texts, wich depending on wich one you translate you got different sayings. it really surprises me you don't know that, as well as you don't know the history of Saint Augustin and Saint Tomas Aquino.
Wasn't there a huge problem with the pope before this actual one? Because a lot of his close people were pedos. And this thing is marked because to reach the priest level you must have a spiritual path and connection with God done, you are so connected with God you are able to guide others. So, if you are that connected, why do you do one of the most horrific sins? Normal people that do atrocities are considered monsters, religious people that do terrible things are considered monster and hypocrites, wich makes sense.
The painting example: all paintings, sculptures, windows of Jesus have been made AFTER his death and AFTER Christianity became main religion in Europe, being imagined at the image of an Europe peasant and not of a SEMITIC one, that's why his portraits have been made by the imagination of the artists, like dragons paintings.
I'm not saying Jesus didn't existed because there's proof that a random guy claimed to be the son of God and got executed, but nothing more than that. I just said your way of exampling is not the accurate one since you can't base yourself in your bad translated holy book nor imaginative paintings. If I'm not wrong Jesus existence was proved by historians investigstions works.
My last point, when I said being believer doesn't make you good person nor worth of anything, I didn't meant that people thinks believing makes you superior, but that believing is enough to being worth of heaven. All the bad things that have been done by Christians in name of God, no matter how much you say they weren't Christians, they were made. So, it seems that being Christian is not enough to be a good person, your own Bible recognizes this, you can't say you are a believer and not practicing, so, why should we worry if we think that Satan exist or doesn't? As long as you know you want to do good, it shouldn't matter the reason (unless it's for egoistic reasons) you do the good.

TLDR:
This text reflects a series of critiques about the preservation of biblical texts, the morality of religious figures, historical representations of Jesus, and the qualifications of belief for moral character. Here’s a summary:

1. Bible vs. Quran Preservation: The Bible's preservation is more fragmented compared to the Quran, leading to interpretative inconsistencies due to variations in Greek, Hebrew, and Latin texts. This affects translation accuracy and understanding of its teachings.
2. Moral Failures in Religious Leadership: There’s a criticism of hypocrisy within religious leadership, especially in light of recent scandals within the Church. The question raised is why those with supposed divine connection can commit grave sins, which undermines their spiritual integrity.
3. Historical Depictions of Jesus: Artistic portrayals of Jesus are noted as historically inaccurate, as they were based on European ideals rather than Semitic characteristics. This reflects the cultural biases of artists and disconnects the image from historical reality.
4. Historicity of Jesus: There’s acknowledgment that a historical Jesus likely existed, yet doubts arise concerning biblical accounts and artistic representations, which are considered unreliable for factual insight into his life.
5. Belief and Morality: The final point argues that being a believer does not inherently make one morally superior or worthy of heaven. History shows that Christians have committed atrocities, and one’s actions, rather than beliefs alone, should determine moral worth.

Overall, the message emphasizes that good deeds matter more than religious affiliation or belief, with a focus on personal integrity rather than doctrinal adherence.

 

[sigma]

I'm not saying Jesus didn't existed because there's proof that a random guy claimed to be the son of God and got executed, but nothing more than that. I just said your way of exampling is not the accurate one since you can't base yourself in your bad translated holy book nor imaginative paintings. If I'm not wrong Jesus existence was proved by historians investigstions works.

Yes, you are right, it is highly probable that historically in the time period there existed a Jewish preacher (there were many Jewish preachers at the time) who was executed brutally, and it led to a cult following
There is no proof of mythical Jesus, most of what is in the Bible is repetitive, the Gospels are based on each other and some other unknown Q source, they are just echoing each other with a sprinkle of their own biases leading to inconsistencies

Overall, the message emphasizes that good deeds matter more than religious affiliation or belief, with a focus on personal integrity rather than doctrinal adherence.

Peak excellency 100%

 

[choripan]

TLDR:
This text reflects a series of critiques about the preservation of biblical texts, the morality of religious figures, historical representations of Jesus, and the qualifications of belief for moral character. Here’s a summary:

1. Bible vs. Quran Preservation: The Bible's preservation is more fragmented compared to the Quran, leading to interpretative inconsistencies due to variations in Greek, Hebrew, and Latin texts. This affects translation accuracy and understanding of its teachings.
2. Moral Failures in Religious Leadership: There’s a criticism of hypocrisy within religious leadership, especially in light of recent scandals within the Church. The question raised is why those with supposed divine connection can commit grave sins, which undermines their spiritual integrity.
3. Historical Depictions of Jesus: Artistic portrayals of Jesus are noted as historically inaccurate, as they were based on European ideals rather than Semitic characteristics. This reflects the cultural biases of artists and disconnects the image from historical reality.
4. Historicity of Jesus: There’s acknowledgment that a historical Jesus likely existed, yet doubts arise concerning biblical accounts and artistic representations, which are considered unreliable for factual insight into his life.
5. Belief and Morality: The final point argues that being a believer does not inherently make one morally superior or worthy of heaven. History shows that Christians have committed atrocities, and one’s actions, rather than beliefs alone, should determine moral worth.

Overall, the message emphasizes that good deeds matter more than religious affiliation or belief, with a focus on personal integrity rather than doctrinal adherence.

It skipped my saint tomas and Augustin mention

 

[Tombradylover]

Satan mogs