Info Facepulling Q&A

[Ethan Asia]

Should you pull downwards
- No, as it can cause your maxilla to rotate negatively, and you'll develop gummy smile overtime.

How long do you need to facepull?
- About 12 - 16h MIMIMUM

How much of a progress can you expect
- 1.5mm advancement from 4 months with 0.5kg
1 year = 4.5 mm

Should you drill screws in maxilla, to get faster results
- No, as the screw failure rate is extremely high, don't do that. Hovewer if you plan on using nelson appliance, they won't gonna fall out since the direction of the forces are different- So yes.

Is there better replacement for acrylic ?
I built my silicone mouth piece for facepulling a few days ago (much softer) and I have developed a tiny diastema in 3 days indicating palate expansion, no none of the appliances touches my teeth lol

I can finally start pulling consistently and for a long period of time, acrylic was way too hard to use for more than 2 hours, gets mogged by silicone insanely hard, going to be combining this with forward thumb pulling too

How to get comfortable while wearing it, and avoid nerve entrapment
- You should dedicate one hour before wearing facepuller to stretching excercises. For neck, shoulders, and arms.

Or buy hockey helmet 300$, and wear it. I am not concerned if it's more effective or not, but it is more comfortable indeed.



apparently, looksmax.me search function doesn't work, and i couldn't provide more questions, but i started thread anyways, so feel free to ask any questions here.

 

[Shrek]

@AstroSky

 

[Dr Shekelberg]

who are you jfl

 

[hairyballscel]

Should you pull downwards
- No, as it can cause your maxilla to rotate negatively, and you'll develop gummy smile overtime.

How long do you need to facepull?
- About 12 - 16h MIMIMUM

How much of a progress can you expect
- 1.5mm advancement from 4 months with 0.5kg
1 year = 4.5 mm

Should you drill screws in maxilla, to get faster results
- No, as the screw failure rate is extremely high, don't do that. Hovewer if you plan on using nelson appliance, they won't gonna fall out since the direction of the forces are different- So yes.

Is there better replacement for acrylic ?
I built my silicone mouth piece for facepulling a few days ago (much softer) and I have developed a tiny diastema in 3 days indicating palate expansion, no none of the appliances touches my teeth lol

I can finally start pulling consistently and for a long period of time, acrylic was way too hard to use for more than 2 hours, gets mogged by silicone insanely hard, going to be combining this with forward thumb pulling too

How to get comfortable while wearing it, and avoid nerve entrapment
- You should dedicate one hour before wearing facepuller to stretching excercises. For neck, shoulders, and arms.

Or buy hockey helmet 300$, and wear it. I am not concerned if it's more effective or not, but it is more comfortable indeed.



apparently, looksmax.me search function doesn't work, and i couldn't provide more questions, but i started thread anyways, so feel free to ask any questions here.

If i use 1.5kg of force could i get 1.125mm a month?

 

[Ethan Asia]

If i use 1.5kg of force could i get 1.125mm a month?

It's achievable in 4 months if you use @nelson appliance

 

[hairyballscel]

It's achievable in 4 months if you use @nelson appliance

his appliance looks retarted tbh, it pulls backwards and he didn't measure the net force in his video so he could be pulling his maxilla backwards LOOL, and he pulls at a retarded angle, you're supposed to pull at a +30 degree angle he pulls higher than that, and the nails prevent his teeth from touching at rest which is needed for the mandible to follow lol his design is fucking stupid

 

[Ethan Asia]

I read scientific studies proving that maxillary protraction is extremely slow in adults and 17 months are required to get just 1.7 millimiters of forward growth, while wearing it 14 hours a day

That's almost year and a half...

So it'll take you 6 years to get just 1cm of change

.

..

...


Also for every extra hour you want to spend into facepulling, add 0.12 into your result, we got that number by deviding 1.7 (Results) by 14 (Number of hours).

So if i facepulled for 20 hours per day, it'll be:

1.7 + (0.12 × 6) = 2.42mm (in 17 months)

Contest ​

1.7 - Result you get from facepulling for 14h

0.12 - Milimeters change in one hour apart

6 - Hours remaining to reach 20h (If i multiplied by 2, i would get 16h, and you can't multiply more than 10).

So with 20h per day, i'm getting 0.14mm increase EVERY MONTH. Calculate accurately from here (I've ignored additional decimals) .

 

[Ethan Asia]

It'll take me 6 years to get 1cm with 20h per day

 

[Ethan Asia]

insert this add-on to my facepuller appliance in order to make sure your lower jaw grows forward alongside the maxilla

 

[MakinItHappen]

We need some trusted brand names.

 

[huntereyesrope]

where can i get nelson's appliance?