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quepasta

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Is this a good goal in order to be the most sexually appealing? And also is this even achievable through my genetics?
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My current physique 14.5 years
5ā€™10.5ā€ 137lbs:
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Iā€™m aware iā€™m pale itā€™s the wintertime
 
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bones mog muscle
obviously

do I have the bones to get that physique

personally I think my SWR is already decent + im doing clavicle exercises (cope most likely)
 
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This is after a year of inconsistent effort
 
the angularity of your clavicle isn't good but the width is decent , waist also looks slim
 
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the angularity of your clavicle isn't good but the width is decent , waist also looks slim
what is the ideal angle and is there a way to change mine
 
high lats is kinda bad but not awfull, your hips are narrow and that is a good thing
 
any pictures of your back?
 
if weā€™re talking naturally then in around 4 years of consistant quality training yes.
shit bro i did not see that you were 14, probably longer than 4 years tbh, cause you can only start bulking safely at around 17-18 (without f*****g up hormones,) so if all goes extremely well 22-24 is when you can expect a physique on that level
 
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good shit bro, as said above watch out with bulking on your age
i had heard that cutting while youā€™re still developing is bad, but iā€™d never heard anyone say the same about bulking. Right now iā€™d consider myself lean bulking, I eat a lot of eggs dairy and red meat, just whole foods no processed sugar (heightmaxxing diet)

Iā€™m curious to know more because I really do not want to mess up my hormones
 
bulking can trigger the growth of the estrogen hormone
 
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bulking can trigger the growth of the estrogen hormone
how far above maintenance calories would you consider unsafe and estrogen promoting
 
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what is the best training split in you allā€™s opinion, I consistently have time to train on tuesdays thursdays and saturdays but I often find time on other days too to train. If I made it a priority i could do 4-5 days a week for sure. Iā€™ve been doing PPL 3 days a week and then just hitting whatever on the extra days but thatā€™s gotta be suboptimal.

I do like ppl though
 
i had heard that cutting while youā€™re still developing is bad, but iā€™d never heard anyone say the same about bulking. Right now iā€™d consider myself lean bulking, I eat a lot of eggs dairy and red meat, just whole foods no processed sugar (heightmaxxing diet)

Iā€™m curious to know more because I really do not want to mess up my hormones
resting yes i agree, but with a shirt on the v-taper illusion is there
 
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@quepasta going to puberty with high estrogen is a literal death sentence
all this is super confusing because I thought lifting was supposed to raise testosterone
 
what is the best training split in you allā€™s opinion, I consistently have time to train on tuesdays thursdays and saturdays but I often find time on other days too to train. If I made it a priority i could do 4-5 days a week for sure. Iā€™ve been doing PPL 3 days a week and then just hitting whatever on the extra days but thatā€™s gotta be suboptimal.

I do like ppl though
ppl is the best split for beginners, i do ppl with an additional arm/shoulder day, also about calorie surplus 200-300 will be fine for a lean bulk
 
all this is super confusing because I thought lifting was supposed to raise testosterone
yes test is good , but avoid raising your E lvls
 
i do ppl as well
 
working out boosts your T, but eating allot of fat causes growth in estrogen
 
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ppl is the best split for beginners, i do ppl with an additional arm/shoulder day, also about calorie surplus 200-300 will be fine for a lean bulk
alright thanks and just to be absolutely sure, a small surplus is ok but anything higher raises estrogen
 
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working out boosts your T, but eating allot of fat causes growth in estrogen
including saturated fat? iā€™d been told that is good for development
 
including saturated fat? iā€™d been told that is good for development
if youre eating clean whole foods in a slight surplus i wouldnt worry about raising your e levels, if you notice youre gaining fat faster than muscle than lover the surplus by about 100 cals
 
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if youre eating clean whole foods in a slight surplus i wouldnt worry about raising your e levels, if you notice youre gaining fat faster than muscle than lover the surplus by about 100 cals
ok thanks for the advice
 
and a lot of bacne:pensivecold:
 
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and a lot of bacne:pensivecold:
I get it bad too sometimes, I started using this exfoliating glove thing in the shower and it helped immensely
 
unfortunately it is on mine šŸ˜­
 
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no idea, i am planning to get my blood tested and see how much test i have in my body
 
i hope i have avg, but i am pretty sure i have lower than avg
 
all this is super confusing because I thought lifting was supposed to raise testosterone
testosterone=estrogen+

estrogen is a 18 chain and testosterone has one extra on the chain (19)

excess testosterone will become estrogen. it has everything to do with how many testosterone receptors you have. if you have a low amount of testosterone receptors then any extra t you make will just become estrogen.
 
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testosterone=estrogen+

estrogen is a 18 chain and testosterone has one extra on the chain (19)

excess testosterone will become estrogen. it has everything to do with how many testosterone receptors you have. if you have a low amount of testosterone receptors then any extra t you make will just become estrogen.
take ai
 

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